Contradicting Himself is impossible with God because He can not deny Himself.
(2 Timothy 2:13) If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
God — the real God — is a God of principles that teaches us, also, to stand by the good principles He teaches the faithful.
(Romans 14:22) Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
He is not a God that tells us something is colored red, and after us beholding that it is red tells us that it is blue; unlike ‘the god’ of the Iglesia ni Manalo (INC) that constantly changes his teachings. After teaching their members for almost a century that Felix Manalo is “undoubtedly the seed of Abraham”, when Brother Soriano emerged as a critic of that erroneous teaching, they suddenly changed it to be the Lord Jesus Christ.
After making people believe (even students of geography) that the Philippines is the Far East, they now assert a blatant lie that they have never taught it.
God’s word and wisdom written in the Bible are straightforward declaration of the absolute truth. There is no contradiction whatsoever. God guarantees it; but it will appear to be clear and concise only to an understanding mind of someone favored by the grace of the Holy Spirit.
(Proverbs 8:8-9) All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them. They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
(2 Peter 1:20-21) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
There are absolute truths in the Bible that work out to be the guiding principle in understanding the written word of God. They are our guide to discern the absolute truth about everything that exists, and within the capacity of our awareness. Of course, our awareness is limited compared to God’s. The absolute truth is: God is a God of truth!
(Psalms 31:5) Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
Being the God of truth, He is faithful. In Greek, ‘pistos’ meaning trustworthy.
pistos
pis-tos’
From G3982; objectively trustworthy; subjectively trustful: – believe (-ing, -r), faithful (-ly), sure, true.
It follows that He can not lie.
(Titus 1:2) In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began…
Emphatically, it is impossible for Him to lie!
(Hebrews 6:18) That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us…
What about the verses that say:
(Luke 1:37) For with God nothing shall be impossible.
(Matthew 19:26) But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Those who are trying to destroy the credibility of the written word of God employ these verses to put doubt to the truth that God’s words are without contradictions; but a quick look at the context will immediately erase any clout of doubt in the mind of someone with understanding.
The phrases “For with God nothing shall be impossible” and “…with God all things are possible” if taken within the context of the conversation, reveals that the Lord Jesus Christ and the angel Gabriel are speaking of things that, for man, is impossible to be done. What they are saying is what is not attainable by man can be done by God. Whereas, on the other side, those things that are impossible with God are things which He will not (and can not) do to Himself or on His person…He can not lie; it is impossible for him to lie; He can not change Himself ; He can not deny Himself, etc.
See the point?
I want to re-cite the verse Proverbs 8:8-9:
All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them. They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
God’s words are all plain and right to somebody who understands. It is plain and simple that we must “honor our father and mother” (Ephesians 6:2).
Do you agree that it is not very hard to understand?
It is also plain, simple, and can very well be understood to read “Husbands, love your wives…” (Ephesians 5:25)
Nowhere in the scriptures can you find something that will contradict these plain and simple truths.
A seeming contradiction for others, even reiterates this simple commandment:
(Matthew 10:37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
It means that we must love a mother, a father, a son, a daughter, and wife, but not more than our love for God.
(Matthew 22:36-39) Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
God must always be our priority — Our loved ones follows. Is there any contradiction?
I hope and pray that you will understand.
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Sincerely in Christ,
EFS
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Who can Lead us to Salvation
When Jesus Christ was being hunted by the Pharisees so that they could kill him, they would need a point man to indicate which was Jesus (the Judas kiss) because He looked very ordinary and had no distinctive looks to immediately be noticeable. He did not have the tall, dark, and handsome attributes of the dreamboat of ladies, nor the power-figure of authorities, nor the executive looks of educated parliamentarians. By outward appearance then, he did not look like someone capable of being medium for anything to include salvation of souls. From this, one can deduce that faithful preaching cannot be had by just outward appearance.
As when King Saul was sick, he did not specify any physical attribute of one who could help him, but his skill.1 Sam. 16:17 says –
And Saul said unto his servants, Provide me now a man that can play well, and bring him to me.
If the faithful preacher is very much like the inconsequential image of Jesus Christ, he is also chosen not for education or worldly achievements, but for wisdom and some specific skill as in the case of Samuel. While the Jews were said to require a sign, the Greeks would seek after wisdom (1 Cor. 1:22). God depends on the faithfulness of the preacher and is pleased even of what wisdom he has, to save those who believe. 1 Cor. 1:21 says –
For after that in the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
A faithful preacher is a medium for salvation by his teachings. As such, he doesn’t just tell stories. He is well acquainted with his resources, keeps a large perspective over his topic, has mastery over his material, and knows very well his objectives. He has a good grasp of the learning needs of his learners, and when he delivers his teachings, he does it properly. In teaching, he does not talk for himself or for his own glory but of the one who sent him. This is one mark in discerning whether a preacher is of God or not. John 7:17-18 says –
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
Employing the Word of God rightfully then, there is no way the faithful preacher could be unrighteous. Studying is required of him to show himself approved unto God, with no need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15). The faithful preacher exerts effort to study the word of God instead of picking up interpretations of so-called Bible scholars in their university hermeneutics courses, and mouthing them without any probing. Doing this implies that one is spiritually bankrupt, having nothing to lead him to understand.
The teachings of the faithful preacher are clean, having been entrusted with the gospel by God who tries him. As explained in 1 Thes. 2:3-4 –
For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.
to GOD BE THE GLORY!!!! forever and ever..
Marks of a Faithful Preacher
Who can Lead us to Salvation
it is YOU Bro.ELISEO SORIANO in our time!
THANKS BE TO GOD!
GOD is an EXACT GOD!
PANTASTIC!!!! MARVELOUS! WONDERFULL!!! AWESOME!
to SUM IT UP!
Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gift.
II Corinthians 9:15
Amen!!
THIS GOD, THE GOD INTRODUCED BY THE BIBLE, IS THE GOD THAT MUST BE WORSHIPED BY ALL MEN.
have your preachers not yet taught you this biblical truth?
then, it is unfortunate that YOUR MINISTERS HAVE MADE YOU WORSHIP FALSE GODS.
This article is very accurate in all it’s content..
the verses, the explanation, the evidence, even the Preacher..
everything is accurate and very much logical..
that’s because God’s guidance is with Bro Eli Soriano..
thanks be to God!!!
FANTASTIC
Amen!
I don’t know what to say!
So, it will just be AMEN!
To God be all the glory, honor, power!!!
Here’s another news about Bro.Eli’s adversaries . . .
http://www.italknews.com/view_link.php?sid=18197
wooohoooo!!!
I wonder what Mr. Logician will be his comment to this one.
I hope that Mr. Logician will not have anymore doubt in the Bible, there is no contradiction in God’s word. And if you (Mr Logician) still have somemore contradiction you see in the Bible, you should ask Brother Eli 1st. He is the only person for this generation that you can ask anything under the sun that he will give you an answer base to the Bible.
You can start listening to these website to get to know more about the Bible and Bro. Eli.
http://www.truthcaster.com
http://www.theoldpath.com
We can all help each other to find out the truth for the sake of our salvation, and hopefully with God’s help we could be united in faith someday.
If only you are truly want to find out the truth.
To God be all the Glory
will not doubt the kindness of God. I believe that He has given everyman a chance to know Him, be it through His creation, and through the bible. My love for Him grew stronger the moment I learned that God placed his GRACE in the hearts of everyman – even myself, even before my parents were born.
And the GRACE grew stronger in people like me, who learned to discover that “GRACE” in our hearts, the moment we learned to forgive, the moment we learned to have faith in Him.
I will not expect more from an Atheist. Why? If they can’t see God in HIS creations and if they can’t see God from HIS words in the Bible, how much more can they see Him in their hearts?
Proverbs 8:8-9:
All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them. They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
hehehe…these detractors of the bible…you will not score a bit against brother eli!
bro eli, could you please write an article about what scientists term as “useless vestigial parts?”
they say that the appendix and wisdom teeth in humans and wings of flightless birds are examples of these.
to believe in such teachings is an insult to the Almighty Creator for He would not create something that is useless.
thank you, bro eli.
thanks be to God for someone like you!
Hi there add@imuscavite!
I’m from Dimasalang Imus Cavite and i grew up there as well, but currently i’ve been here in cebu for quite some time now, and i’m glad to hear you guys are updated with Bro. Eli’s blog.
About that so called “useless vestigial parts” you were mentioning, that is a controversial subject when put in front of an ignoramus preacher.
But I firmly believe that Bro. Eli has been teaching this to us even before, that God in all His wisdom and greatness, will “never” put something in creation that is useless, specially, if it was in born with a being and “not” a so called “accident of nature” meaning, it’s part of it’s DNA.
Even human and animal dung or manure, although seemingly useless, is being used as fertilizer. And recently, in japan and other parts of the world, the use it to create a gas that can be used like a LPG or Liquified Petrolium Gas that you can cook with! Imagine! Cooking you delicious dinner with human waste?!
This process was only discovered this century, but in the Bible they have already done that in practice that dung can be used to cook . . .
Ezekiel 4:12 we shall read . . . . . .
“And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight”
It is of course a crude way in the time of the Prophet Ezekiel in comparison the sohisticated way they are doing it now, turning dung into gas that is flammable and can be convertered as energy.
But the point is, that very “dung” is not useless, so much more, what kind of an idiot scrientist will say that wingless fights in birds are useless????
Even your $#^% has some worth!
So lets us wait for another amazing analysis of this matter from the sensible preacher of out time.
Bro Eli Soriano of course!!!
take care yah all in imus! God bless always!!
silencing me because my views don’t agree with your is unfair.
im challenging mr soriano to a one to one online debate
here’s the topic: does god exist?
we can debate in tagalog if he wants
there is a reply on WAYN.com an atheist about contradiction of the bible I’m posting this to have a reply:
John has given the greatest example of why I CANNOT believe in the bible.
The contradictions are endless. People such as Jeffrey say you must take the bible literally, they say the are all about peace and love yet, what does the bible have to say?
How about this? What does the bible say of women and their choices? What does it say about gays? Do they get a good talking to? Do they get a slap on the wrist? Do they get a fine? Nope. This is how they are loved.
Leviticus 21:9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the *****, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
So according to this, all gays must die. Do you agree with this Jeffrey?
How about this?
Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
So John, Phil, Elspeth, myself and others, should be put to death. Is that right Jeffrey?
I could go on with more and perhaps I might. Seeing as Jeffrey wants us all to live exactly according to scripture, let’s see what sort of world that would give us.
X-ian “the hungry & thirsty Soul” [for the daily celestial bread]
To Bro. Eli:
The Heavensent, the Singular Sensible Preacher
Please comment to the articles posted by this website:
http://www.bibletruthkeys.com/where_are_the_dead.htm
on the question WHERE ARE THE DEAD? There are varied views presented, from the Catholics, Protestants, Heatens, Hindus, Buddhists and the views of the website forerunners. As I read it, the facts and biblical quotations they presented are impractical, confusing, irrelevant and digressing to the line of Truths that the Bible are showing us through your instrumentation.
Another thing is that, I visited the websites of Bro. Tim Kurek and I have read there his posted blogs and I found it huh… (commentless..) Bro Eli, please comment on them (the posted blogs of Bro. Tim since he is inviting all of us to visit his website and post our comments there.
Anent to these, I was so thankful to God for his unfathomable and unspeakable gifts to all of us through your preachings Bro. Eli. You know what, (correct me if I’m wrong) evrytime I commited sins against God, Ijust visit your websites and your blog and I will just look at your posted photos and your short inspirational talks about your deepest deisre to go to the Heaven of heavens, just even to the humblest part of it like the John or the RESTROOM if there’s like that in Paradise, I was moved to repentance and prayers. You’re always been MY INSPIRATION and ENSAMPLE and the INSPIRATION OF THE ENTIRE BRETHREN of course!!!
Thanks be to GOD for all his UNFATHOMABLE and UNSPEAKABLE GIFTS..!
To GOD be all the Glories, Honors, and Powers forever and ever…Amen.!
X-ian (—x- christian -x—)
Amen, amen, amen,.
Thats the only word that I wanted to say to this wonderful article.
To God Be the Glory forever and ever. Amen
Duke
Many have tried refuting and gainsaying what the Bible is teaching us and what Bro. Eli is preaching to us but they all failed and continuously failing with the divine intercession upon Bro. Eli. The GOD THAT CANNOT LIE displays their GROSS IGNORANCE of God’s Words in the Bible and their FOOLISHNESS based on the jeopardizing pitiful wisdom of the god of this world. Truly that the WORDS of God in the Bible CANNOT and WILL NOT in any means CONTRADICT THEMSELVES just like our GOD, the GOD of ISRAEL, that CANNOT and WILL NOT LIE, CONTRADICT or CHANGE HIMSELF, DO WICKEDNESS, ETC. FOREVER. But truly HE remains as he was from eternity until eternity Thou art our GOD. HE is the FAITHFUL GOD whom we trust for our salvation, life and our future wholeheartedly and undoubtedly.
God’s Words in the Bible are as powerful as the two-edged sword that but the FOOLS deny the power in them for the HARDEN their HEARTS and are BLINDED by the god of this world (2 Corintians 4:4) says,
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“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
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For they have no pleasures in them (the WORDS of GOD) but to LIES. For THEY are of their father, the devil (John 8:44) says,
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“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. ”
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and walk afte their own lusts and the will of their father. How pitiful are they who are BLIND FOLLOWERS following the BLIND PASTORS, PREACHERS, LEADERS and the like for they are both bound to destruction (Matthew 15:14) says,
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“Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”
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Thanks be to God for He has opened the yes or our heart and softened our formerly stony heart and our labors are significant to His sight (1 Corinthians 15:58.
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Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
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Thanks God of Israel for the unfathomable and unspeakable gifts!
To God be the Glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
–x- X-ian -x–
TO MR. LOGICIAN,
CONTINUE ON READING AND INTERACTING WITH READERS OF THIS BLOG, AND ALSO WITH BRO. ELI, MAYBE GOD WILL HAVE MERCY ON YOU AND CORRECT YOUR ILOGICAL MIND. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ENEMIES OF THE TRUTH AND ABASE BRO. ELI UPON TELLING THE SAID TRUTH,YET SOME OF THEM ARE WITH BRO. ELI NOW,SHARING THE SAME SPIRIT FROM GOD IN THE CHURCH. PROVE YOUR POINT,MAYBE YOUR RIGHT,MAYBE WE ARE WRONG…BUT GOD IS A GOD OF MERCY,AND HE WILL NOT PUT HIS PEOPLE ON SHAME, HE WILL BE OUR GUIDE THRU BRO. ELI AND AT THE END YOU WILL KNOW THAT OUR GOD IS MUCH WISER,MORE STRONGER THAN YOUR LOGIC OR YOUR god if you have any….
well said…theres no mystery at all its just PLAIN TRUTH
i hope and pray that this will enlightens some people at DILIMAN, if only if they will lay down their PRIDE.
AMEN
THANK YOU BRO ELI for this wonderful teachings my heart and soul are really full of wisdom. i just cant imagine my days here on earth without you.
TO GOD BE ALL THE POWER AND GLORY FOREVER AND EVER..AMEN
I am so happy that God does not contradict Himself, or His word to us. We can lean on Him like no other, and on His word as stone. What a simple truth that holds such a profound blessing!
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tim kurek
Only God who is not OMNIPOTENT and OMNISCIENT will contradict HIMSELF.
God will not contradict himself because he is God
Man can contradict himself because he is man
Bro. eli is a man, that is why he has contradiction in his teachings, If Bro. eli has no contradiction of whatsover in his teachings then he is not a man, He is a God.
hey thinker,
YOUR LOGIC STINKS!!!
Your logic is flawed, I’m sorry to tell you, because Bro. Eli’s teaching is not his or a product of his own intelligence. Bro. Eli’s teachings is from God, purely from the Bible, no more, no less. I hope your wise enough to notice that even in Bro. Eli’s blogs, they are flooded with Biblical verses as his constant basis.
bro. Eli is a reader its not his teaching its Christ’s.
…….artist from Baguio
to thinker,
i think you are not using your mind, coz if ur using it you will not say that B.Eli has a contradicting teaching…why dont you cite one!…or your thinking is the one contradicting…???
To thinker,
Bro.eli is a MAN…
The teaching was from GOD…
Bro.eli is a MESSENGER…
The MESSAGE was from GOD…
“Bro.Eli” and “GOD” are a different entity…
If Bro.eli has no contradiction of whatsover in his teachings,it’s simply because he is just a “speaker” of the “one” who makes the MESSAGE…
a friendly advice;
stop “thinking” and get more “sleep”…
your “LOGIC” needs “RETHINKING”…
PS:
If symptoms(your “LOGIC”) still persist,consult a nearest pscychiatrist.
To thinker…
I’m sorry but your little analogy is wrong.
God will not contradict himself because He is God
Yep that’s right
Man can contradict himself because he is man
Yep that’s right as well
Bro. Eli is a man, that is why he has contradiction in his teachings…uhhm that’s wrong.
Why? because brother Eli’s teachings doesn’t come from himself does it? He reads the Bible…The Book of the Lord. And the scriptures, even though they were written by man came from God.
Don’t you notice when he preaches he always refers to the Bible? According to Matthew, according to Luke…etc. You can very much see that in this article.
So how can bro Eli have contradictions in his teachings if the source of his teachings came from the One who can’t contradict himself?
Bro. Eli is just a medium used to deliver God’s teachings…what brother Eli preaches isn’t of himself but of God.
thinker,
Bro. Eli may have flaws as a person. He may have sinned and he may have imperfections, this is because he is human.
But the teachings that are with him, it’s not his. Those are not his doctrines, they are from God. Since they are from God, there are no contradictions in his teachings.
Bro. Eli as a person has flaws, has contradictions, and he himself humbly admits that, and that he needs God too.
But if the followers of Bro. Eli would look at him and follow him because of he, his character, his attitude, he as a person, then Church of God will never be this big, will never be INTERNATIONAL.
But we look at the doctrines that he is telling us. Nothing that he invents, he just reads the Bible. Would there be any chance that you saw him telling things BASELESS? None..
Do you have difficulty in accepting his teachings? You may have, and I also do.. The topics in every Thanksgiving are overwhelming, hard to digest at times, but not after Bro. ELi explains everything.. little by little.
Because the mysteries he unveils us are so hard, they come from God, most of the time the minds of the people find it hard to understand, often we have to look back, study the topic at home to fully grasp everything, BUT THIS DOESNT MEAN IT CONTRADICTS ITSELF..
He is not God, his teachings come from God, then there are no contradictions.
Bro. Eli is human, he himself have contradictions BUT NOT HIS TEACHINGS.
“If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself.” – John 7.17
to (dull)thinker:
thinker can swim,
a fish can swim
therefore thinker is a fish
is that what your line of reasoning is?
Joh 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for he giveth not the Spirit by measure.
Joh 7:17 If any man willeth to do his will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it is of God, or whether I speak from myself.
Joh 7:18 He that speaketh from himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh the glory of him that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
2Co 2:17 For we are not as the many, corrupting the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God, speak we in Christ.
To “Thinker”
My personal opinion,
I’m not sure what congregation you are in or if you are one of the members of our congregation “Church of God” and if you are, I’m not sure how long have you been with this congregation. But if you have any doubt with Bro. Eli’s teachings, you should ask, send him a letter if you think that no one of any workers can help you. Let Bro Eli’s know about your concern. I’m sure Bro Eli like’s to hear that before you feel totally lost with our congregation. It will be very hard for Bro Eli to know what you have doubt in your mind unless if you help him too, let him know what make you think that there is a contradiction(s) with his teachings. You can send him an email. This will help you and as well as the others have the same situation like you.
If you are not a member of our congregation, you can still ask Bro. Eli of course and compare his answer to the other preachers. But before anything else, you should ask God’s help first. After all, God is the only one can help you, but only if you help yourself too.
Having “DOUBT” with your preacher or in your religion (regardless what congregation you are in) is one of the worst feelings you don’t want to ignore.
You have to ask and compare, find out the truth, be lovers of the TRUTH.
To God be all the Glory
can you please explain these contradictions, bro. eli soriano. i’m a new listener but i’m still having doubts about the bible because of these contradictions
1. Was John the Baptist Elias? “This is Elias which was to come.” Matthew 11:14 “And they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he said I am not.” John l:21
2. How many generations were there from the Babylon captivity to Christ? Matthew 1:17 Fourteen generations, Matthew 1:12-16 Thirteen generations.
3. What was the nationality of the woman who besought Jesus? Matthew 15:22 “And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, Have mercy on me, 0 Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.” Mark 7:26 “The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.”
4. Where did Christ ascend from? From Mount Olivet. Acts 1:9-12 From Bethany. Luke 24:50-51
5. Who made the request? (Matthew 20:20-21) Their mother requested that James and John, Zebedee’s children, should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom. (Mark 10:35-37) James and John, Zebedee’s children, requested that they should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom.
TO SOMEONE NAMED “THINKER” (or maybe another LOGICIAN):
is that the best “thinking” you can do?
If GOD cannot contradict Himself because He is not like man who can contradict himself, it doesn’t necessarily follow a sound logic that a God-sent preacher (men of God like Apostle Paul, John the Baptist, and others) will teach inconsistently the Gospel of Christ, because the Spirit of God is working in them. There’s such things as divine guidance, amigo.
Those “contradictions”, perhaps, that you contend to be evident in Bro. Eli’s way of teaching is still an unwarranted opinion, unless you’re man enough to stand firmly your accusations backed with strong evidences, like in a formal debate.
I’m not completely saying you’re “thinking” is wrong. It may say, it lacks “substance”.
So, to aid you with your “thinking”, let me remind you that –
(i hope this will be easy for you to comprehend, if and only if, you are really a thinker)
To add@imuscavite,
This is my reaction to your post regarding the term “useless vestigial parts”:
Many scientists believe that these “useless vestigial parts” like the appendix, human tailbone, wings of flightless birds, etc., are actually REMNANTS from genetic divergence caused by EVOLUTION. These scientists say, in particular Joseph McCabe, that; “The vermiform appendage—in which some recent medical writers have vainly endeavoured to find a utility—is the shrunken remainder of a large and normal intestine of a remote ancestor. This interpretation of it would stand even if it were found to have a certain use in the human body. Vestigial organs are sometimes pressed into a secondary use when their original function has been lost.”
ALTHOUGH THE SCIENTIFIC VIEW MAY SEEM LOGICALLY PLAUSIBLE, THE PROBLEMATIC LOGICAL PRECEDENT LIES IN THE INEVITABLE SCIENTIFIC CONSIDERATION FOR EVOLUTION WHICH IS A VERY CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC WHICH I HOPE BRO. ELI WOULD SOON TACKLE IN THIS BLOG FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THOSE DOUBTING THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.
To thinker,
Im very sorry to say this but i think you took a wrong name for yourself because obviously, you do not seem to have any sound cognitive faculties! YOU ACCUSE BRO. ELI OF HAVING DOCTRINAL CONTRADICTIONS YET YOU ENUMERATED NONE ON YOUR POST! ONLY DESPERATE FOOLS LIKE YOU WOULD BELIEVE YOUR NONSENSE BECAUSE MAJORITY OF THE READERS OF THIS BLOG ARE INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUALS! Please excuse me to speak in Tagalog: ILABAS MO NA KASI SI MANALO MONG DUWAG PARA MATAPOS NA USAPAN KASI YUNG MANALO MO HANGGANG NGAYON NAKATAGO SA APARADOR! NAKAKAHIYA KAYO!
hey logician, it just so happen that your post caught my attention because you are actually challenging Bro. Eli to an online debate but before anything else logician I AM PERSONALLY CHALLENGING YOU LOGICIAN ON A DEBATE RIGHT HERE AND NOW IN THIS BLOG! I WILL PROVE THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING GOD AND YOU WILL PROVE OTHERWISE. MY FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS: WHAT CAUSES MATTER TO EXIST?
hi quiel,
I’ve asked the same question also to an atheist. And his answer was nothing but another question, “Likewise, what caused your God to exist?”
If I answered his red herring based on The Bible regarding his question on the origin of the Almighty God, he would not believe it because he do not accept the Bible as the source of truth.
But still, I told him the Biblical wisdom that God is the only creator, so, it’s wrong to ask who or what created God.
And then I told him, “I gave you my answer already, how about your answer to my question, what caused matter to exist? He paused for 30 seconds thinking, and then he said, “I admit, I really don’t know, but surely there is an answer but I just don’t know it yet.”
Hahaha!!! He couldn’t say, “dust or any form of matter is the origin of all things matter so its wrong to ask where matter come from.” Because when he said so, I would ask him, “What is your basis?”
See? Although they don’t believe in the Bible as the source of truth, at least we believers have the Bible as source of our beliefs. Unlike them, they’ve always been clueless because they don’t believe in the Bible.
ADD MEMBER SAYS:
if
X can do Y;
it is not always true that
X will surely/inevitably do Y
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but mr soriano said GOD CANNOT LIE. he doesn’t say god CAN LIE BUT WILL NOT LIE. don’t put words into MR SORIANO’s MOUTH.
PS:
i’m still waiting for mr soriano to accept my challenge to an ONE TO ONE DEBATE entitled DOES GOD EXIST?
Some people read the Bible just to find a way to put down the integrity of the words of God in the Bible.
Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken.
Amos 5:14
But they will not be victorious in putting down the truthfulness of every word of God in the Bible for as long there are messengers sent by God.
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
II Timothy 2:15
King James Version
if god can kill and steal in the bible, why can’t god LIE?
Samuel 15:3
“Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do
not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and
sheep, camel and donkey.”
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Thank God He cannot lie. Because that is an assurance that his statement “the good will be saved and the evil will be punished” is true because he cannot lie.
Imagine if your god was Senator Merriam, after you served her all your life hoping to be saved, then your god will say, “Actually, there is no heaven and there is no earth. I lied.” followed by a pretty laugh. Is that kind of god you want? A god that can say “I lied?”
TO SOMEONE NAMED “LOGICIAN” (comment#37):
my comment#32 was a response to someone named “THINKER”, but since you like to answer for him, or should I say, you’re the same person, then you are again proving my point, and others here as well, that you’re just a “wannabe” logician.
oh my, you even failed to comprehend a simple equation!
ok, to correct your ignorance, let me tell you that a simple equation that:
if X can do Y, it’s not always true that X will surely and inevitably do Y
or when we apply it to @THINKER’S argument that
if MAN CAN DO CONTRADICTING HIMSELF, it is not always true that MAN WILL SURELY & INEVITABLY CONTRADICT HIMSELF.
therefore;
it is not a flawless argument that a man like Bro. Eli Soriano, though he is not in the same level of GOD WHO CANNOT CONTRADICT or DENY HIMSELF (2 TIM. 2:13), will surely and inevitably contradict himself at all times in his way of teaching the Gospel of Christ.
If that is your conviction, that ALL MEN are contradicting themselves (even the real prophets, real apostles, real evangelists, and real men of God) then ALL MEN are under your suspicion and you cannot put trust to any man even though MEN OF GOD, PEOPLE OF THE GOD OF TRUTH, are worthy of trust (e.g. Apostle Paul who is a steward entrusted by God with mysteries. 2 Cor. 4:1)
your reaction against my is too shallow, that you misread it that I am referring to the account that “GOD CANNOT LIE” in which you wrongly thought that I’m putting words to Bro. Eli’s mouth. I actually find you a funny person, because I never expected you call yourself a logician and seeks for a one-on-one debate with Bro. Eli with a proud face, but you reading comprehension and thought-process is still defective and needs a lot more training.
if this simple post will ignite your emotion into anger, I personally don’t think you can really become a LOGICIAN as you dream to be.
good luck. 😀
corrections:
… is a steward entrusted with God’s mysteries. (1 Cor. 4:1)
your reaction against my earlier response is too shallow …
.. but your reading comprehension …
To logician,
if you are a man of integrity accept the challlenge of quiel in post 35…
He already has his first question?…and be prepared for questions from other members!lets see if you have a solid ground…
Hey logician, you seem to have no logic at all. if you will just use your brain a bit which you seldom use, you would not come up with that crap of yours like you said and i quote:”but mr soriano said GOD CANNOT LIE. he doesn’t say god CAN LIE BUT WILL NOT LIE. don’t put words into MR SORIANO’s MOUTH.” IF YOU WOULD JUST READ CAREFULLY THIS ARTICLE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND IF YOU WOULD EMPLOY ENOUGH CRITICAL SCRUTINY, YOU WOULDN’T SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE NOTION “GOD CANNOT LIE” IS NOT ORIGINALLY FROM MR SORIANO BUT IS FROM THE BIBLE AS CAN BE READ IN THE BOOK OF HEBREWS CHAPTER 6 VERSE 18 WHICH SAYS “That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us…” AND THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN MORE OR LESS 2,000 YEARS BEFORE MR. SORIANO WAS BORN!
God does not contradict herself bec God is a God of righteousness and God cannot lie stated in titus 1:2,contrary to what the minister of inc says that if god wants to lie he can lie
hey nagsusuri, can i ask you WHO IS THE ONE TALKING IN THE BIBLE VERSES Samuel 15:3 AND Deuteronomy 20:10-14? IS IT GOD HIMSELF?
Will God contradict himself? NO!
Will Paul contradict himself? Yes!
IN Galatian we read:
“Am I seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men,
If i were pleasing mean I should not be a servant of christ” ( Gal. 1:10)
(good statement at faced value, consistent with the doctrine of Jesus)
SO THOSE WHO SEEK TO PLEASE MEN CANNOT BE THE SERVANT OF CHRIST? RIGHT?
BUT in Corinthians we read:
“Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God , JUST AS A TRY TO PLEASE ALL MEN
IN EVERYTHING I DO…….( I cor. 10:32, 33)
So Did he or did he not, try to please MEN? so taken from his own testimony (Gal. 1:10) proves that he was not
a servant of christ, he betrayed his ownself like you jet betraying your own ignorace.
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In his letters to the Romans we can read his firm statement:
“For God has consigned all men to disobedience, that he may have mercy upon all.” ( Rom. 11:32)
But from the same epistle two chapters prior to above statement he said:
“So then he has mercy upon whomever he wills, and he hardens the heart of whomever he wills” (Rom. 9:18)
So , Does our lord work to the end that all mean might receive his mercy or does he harden the hearts
of men?
Just for the sake of arguments (JSA), to find one contradiction in a person who says that He has the spirit of christ is something, but to find more than 2 is indicative that he is not really of God. He is indeed a liar!
Conclusion: Paul said: “BE IMITATORS OF ME! Bro. eli imitated him, he is following the foostep of Paul, thus the contradiction of bro. eli’s teaching is understandable.
response to comment#48:
(yikes! here’s another wannabe!)
for anyone’s sake, let me teach/remind you about few things:
CONTRADICTION means conflicting or opposing ideas; completely irreconcilable disagreement!
UNDERSTANDABLE means apprehensible or acceptable.
therefore, saying someone’s contradiction is understandable is an oxymoron (pronounced as oksi + moron)!
i hope now you’ve learned new words.
and let me tell you this straight, @faithfulness …. you’re faith is shakable!
you even prove my point when you said in edebate that believing in B.A.’s concept of O.S.A.S. and believing that God is not omniscient are both non-sensical created by fools.
You even wrote too much double-negations, and impliedly saying there’s no God everywhere in the Church of God Intl.
here in your post, you’re now saying Apostle Paul and Bro. Eli both have contradictions in their teachings, which made you pathetically conclude that BOTH OF THEM are not of real servants of Christ, therefore must be REJECTED.
whoah! what a heretic faithfulness you have there!
you remind me of those previous names here who hold the same thinking as yours, which I previously called “WTF-ism” or Williams’s Theories of Faith who HATES PAUL but still makes reference to Paul’s writings.
Again, I will repeat my question directed to a certain Nagsusuri, WHO IS THE ONE TALKING IN THE BIBLE VERSES Samuel 15:3 AND Deuteronomy 20:10-14? IS IT GOD HIMSELF? Please confirm your stand.
To faithfulness (post #48),
After reading your post, I felt happiness in my heart.
There’s a feeling of happiness I felt because I know we in the Church of God understands clearly the seemingly contradictions in Paul’s epistles. I’m happy because Paul is successful to hide the wisdom from christian-pretenders. And if there are readers of the Bible that can clearly understands Paul’s letters, surely to them Paul intended his letters–to the real Christians. I wish I can share to you the understanding that God has given his church through Bro. Eli regarding Paul’s difficult to comprehend letters. But I can’t because, firstly, I’m not blessed to be a good communicator (I don’t want to tell you the second reason).
I hope Bro. Eli or any member who read your post (or your favorite Jet himself) will respond to you, so that the contradictions that you are taking about be removed from your head.
to nagsusuri#40,
GOD steal???
Why would GOD “steal” something that “belongs” to HIM in the first place?
Can you name a “single” thing “IN” and “OUTSIDE” this world that GOD didn’t “make” and doesn’t belongs to GOD?
When you were brought out to this world,did you bring something in you that you might say that it’s “your property”?
Is it POSSIBLE to STEAL from YOURSELF?
(unless you are the kind of person who steals from yourself,I would suggest seeking medical help)
I’ll give you this scenario…
A father promised his son a part of land as to be his share on his fathers wealth when he is on the right age.And it came to pass that the son was ripe on his age and it came to the knowledge of the father that the land that he had owned that he had promised to his son had been squatted by illegal occupants.
Question;
1)Was it rightfull for the “real owner”(the father) to take back what was rightfully his and give it to whom he favors?
2)Was it rightfull to the “son” to “regain ownership” of the land that was promised to him by his loving father?
3)Was it rightfull for the “illegal occupants” who squatted on the land to keep the land for themselves?
4)If your a good parent,which would you choose?your favored and beloved “son”?…or those illegal occupants who just squatted on your land?
GOD didn’t steal ANYTHING from ANYONE…
All you “see” here was already here before you…
and those you “don’t see” was “made” before you were here…
IT WAS ALL “HIS”…
not “YOURS” or “OURS”…
but if you’ll ask him…
THIS WAS ALL MADE FOR “HIS CHILDRENS”.
to mr. Aldama:
Q: Who made the request? (Matthew 20:20-21) Their mother requested that James and John, Zebedee’s children, should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom. (Mark 10:35-37) James and John, Zebedee’s children, requested that they should sit beside Jesus in his Kingdom.
A: Mat 20:20″ Then came to him the M-O-T-H-E-R of the sons of Zebedee W-I-T-H HER S-O-N, worshipping him, and asking a certain thing of him.
Q: Where did Christ ascend from? From Mount Olivet. Acts 1:9-12 From Bethany. Luke 24:50-51
A: BETHANY was a small village on the southeastern slope of the MOUNT OF OLIVES, less than two miles from Jerusalem.
Q: What was the nationality of the woman who besought Jesus? Matthew 15:22 “And behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, Have mercy on me, 0 Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.” Mark 7:26 “The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.”
A: they are diff. situation in Matthew “a woman of Canaan” and in Mark a “woman was a Greek”
Q:How many generations were there from the Babylon captivity to Christ? Matthew 1:17 Fourteen generations, Matthew 1:12-16 Thirteen generations.
A:try to count again (Matthew 1:12-16 Fourteen generation not Thirteen).
Q: Was John the Baptist Elias? “This is Elias which was to come.” Matthew 11:14 “And they asked him, what then? Art thou Elias? And he said I am not.” John l:21
A:Joh 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elijah? And he saith, I am not.
Mat 11:14 And if ye are willing to receive it, this is Elijah, that is to come.
Mat 11:15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Mat 13:11 And he answered and said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
(ASK THE BRETHREN(IN PERSON) ANY LOCAL NEAR YOU)
To OTAN,
hope Bro. Eli or any member who read your post (or your favorite Jet himself) will respond to you, so that the contradictions that you are taking about be removed from your head.
reply: I’l truly wait for their counter-arguments in response to the self-contradiction of Paul. Anyway, thank you Miss Otan! God bless!
Hello faithfulness and I wish you good health.
First of all, I am not an authority in the Bible just like Bro. Eli is but to the best of my ability and with the diligent tutelage of Bro. Eli Soriano, I will try to make a counter-argument because you said and I quote:” I’l truly wait for their counter-arguments in response to the self-contradiction of Paul.”
Let us critically analyze those verses that for you seem to contradict each other.
In the post that you have posted in post #48, you cited the book of Galatians chapter 1 verse 10 which reads:
“For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.”
IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM THE VERSE THAT APOSTLE PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT A CERTAIN “PLEASING” RIGHT? Let us analyze this “pleasing” further by asking three questions;
1. PLEASING WHO?
2. PLEASING THROUGH WHAT?
3. PLEASING FOR WHOM?
Let us answer question number 1, WHO DOES PAUL WANT TO PLEASE? Let us get the answer from the Bible:
In the book of 1 Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 3 to 4 we can read;
“For our exhortation [was] not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.”
ACCORDING TO THE VERSE, GOD ENTRUSTED HIS GOSPEL TO PAUL AND OTHER EVANGELISTS NOT TO PLEASE MEN BUT TO PLEASE GOD WHO TRIETH THEIR HEARTS SO IF TAKEN WITHIN BIBLICAL CONTEXT, PAUL PLEASES GOD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSES.
Now, let us answer question number two, PAUL PLEASES GOD THROUGH WHAT? Let us get the answer from the Bible:
In 1 Timothy chapter 1 verse 11 we can read;
“According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.”
USING THE BIBLE VERSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION “PAUL PLEASES THROUGH WHAT?”, PAUL PLEASES GOD THROUGH THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL THAT WAS COMMITTED TO HIS TRUST.
Let us now answer the final question, PAUL PLEASES GOD FOR WHOM? Again, let us get the answer from the Bible:
In the book of 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1 to 2 we can read;
“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”
AGAIN, USING THE BIBLE VERSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, PAUL PLEASES GOD FOR THE BRETHREN OR FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE.
Now that we have already analyzed the word “pleasing” in Galatians 1:10, let us now consolidate the analyses for us to grasp the real picture of what the Apostle Paul said in the verse within biblical context;
GOD ENTRUSTED HIS GOSPEL TO PAUL AND OTHER EVANGELISTS NOT TO PLEASE MEN BUT TO PLEASE GOD WHO TRIETH THEIR HEARTS SO IF TAKEN WITHIN BIBLICAL CONTEXT, PAUL PLEASES GOD MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSES.
PAUL PLEASES GOD THROUGH THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL THAT WAS COMMITTED TO HIS TRUST.
PAUL PLEASES GOD FOR THE BRETHREN OR FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE.
After analyzing Galatians 1:10, we will then critically analyze the verse that for you seems to contradict with Galatians 1:10 which is 1 Corinthians chapter 10 verses 32 to 33 which reads;
“Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: Even as I please all [men] in all [things], not seeking mine own profit, but the [profit] of many, that they may be saved.”
It is biblically undeniable therefore that Apostle Paul pleases men BUT THE VERSE ALSO QUALIFIES WHY HE DID IT so the refining question is WHY DID HE DO IT right? The answer is also in the verse and I read;
“Even as I please all [men] in all [things], not seeking mine own profit, but the [profit] of many, THAT THEY MAY BE SAVED.”
The Bible therefore is clear of the real intention of Apostle Paul why he pleases men that is, THAT THEY MAY BE SAVED which is very contextually congruent with what is written on the book of 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1 to 2 we can read;
“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; BY WHICH ALSO YE ARE SAVED, IF ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”
Now that it is clear that Apostle Paul pleases men for them to be saved, let us now articulate 1 Corinthians chapter 10 verses 32 to 33 with the consolidated analyses that I did earlier for us to be able to reconcile Galatians 1:10 with 1 Corinthians chapter 10 verses 32 to 33:
IF APOSTLE PAUL PLEASES MEN TO BE SAVED BECAUSE PAUL PLEASES GOD FOR THE BRETHREN OR FOR ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE THROUGH THE GLORIOUS GOSPEL THAT WAS COMMITTED TO HIS TRUST, CAN APOSTLE PAUL PLEASE MEN MORE THAN HE PLEASES GOD?
Let us now answer this question to solve the problem by using 1 Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 3 to 4 which reads;
“For our exhortation [was] not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.”
IF IT SO HAPPEN THEREFORE THAT APOSTLE PAUL PLEASES MEN, HE DID NOT DO IT SO AS TO PLEASE MEN BUT GOD WHO HE SAYS TRIETH HIS HEART, THUS, ELIMINATING THE SUPPOSED CONTRADICTION BETWEEN GALATIANS 1:10 AND 1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10 VERSES 32 TO 33.
Now that the first supposed contradiction between Galatians 1:10 and 1 Corinthians chapter 10 verses 32 to 33 has been solved by contextual reconciliation, let us now analyze the second supposed contradiction that you gave that is between Rom. 11:32 and Rom. 9:18.
In the book of Romans chapter 11 verse 32 we can read this;
“For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.”
In the King James Version of the Bible 1611 English Edition, the word “unbelief” is used but if we will look up the original greek word used in the original greek manuscripts we will find the greek word “apeitheia” or if we formally translate it to its closest english word translation, we will come up with the word “stubbornness”.
Let us ask an analytical question for us to extract more information in order for us to solve the supposed contradiction.
WHICH ARE THOSE REFERRED TO BY APOSTLE PAUL WHOM GOD CONCLUDED ALL IN UNBELIEF OR STUBBORNNESS, THAT GOD MIGHT HAVE MERCY UPON ALL?
If we will just read the verse where Rom. 11:32 came from we will find which are those Apostle Paul is referring to in the verse, let us now read the book of Romans chapter 11 verse 13;
“FOR I SPEAK TO YOU GENTILES, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:”
ACCORDING TO THE VERSE, WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED WHICH ARE THOSE REFERRED TO BY PAUL WHOM GOD CONCLUDED ALL IN UNBELIEF OR STUBBORNNESS, THAT GOD MIGHT HAVE MERCY UPON ALL AND THEY ARE THE GENTILES.
Now let us analyze the verse that for you has supposed contradiction with Romans 11:32 which is Romans 9:18. In the book of Romans chapter 9 verse 18 we can read this;
“Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will [have mercy], and whom he will he hardeneth.”
Now let us ask the Bible an analytical question: WHO IS THAT THAT THE APOSTLE PAUL REFERRED TO WHOM WILL BE HARDENETH BY GOD?
If we will just read the verse immediately before Romans 9:18 the analytical question will be answered. In the book of Romans chapter 9 verse 17 we can read this;
“For the scripture saith unto PHARAOH, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.”
SO THE BIBLE HAVE ANSWERED OUR QUESTION, IT IS THE PHARAOH THAT APOSTLE PAUL REFERRED TO THAT WAS HARDENETH BY GOD.
IF WE WILL NOW APPLY COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS BETWEEN Romans 11:32 AND Romans 9:18 USING THE ABOVE ANALYSES, WE THEREFORE FOUND NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THE TWO VERSES IN THAT Romans 11:32 REFERS TO THE GENTILES AND Romans 9:18 REFERS TO THE PHARAOH, TWO DISTINCT AND EXTREMELY DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTERS.
I just hope in my own little way I have shed some light regarding the matter. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT MY EXPLANATIONS HERE ARE SUBJECT TO BRO. ELI’S CORRECTION BECAUSE I WILL NOT CLAIM THAT MY EXPLANATIONS ARE CORRECT UNLESS CONFIRMED BY BRO. ELI BECAUSE HE IS MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN ME REGARDING THESE MATTERS.
May you have a nice day faithfulness and godbless.
To nagsusuri;
if god can kill and steal in the bible, why can’t god LIE?
you ask an impertinent question. To a normal reader reading your question “why can’t god LIE?” you’re words is forcing God to lie…or if you mean “why can’t god LIE?” for your god not our God then it’s up to you if you want your god to be a liar. Nagsusuri ka di ba, talinuhan mo lang pagsusuri mo kay bro. ELi at sa awa ng Dios maliliwanagan ka sa kadiliman na nasa iyo ngayon.
to faithlessness,
well,as the “wise man” has once said…
And think of the long-suffering of our Lord as salvation (as our “BELOVED” brother Paul also has written to you according to the “WISDOM” given to him,
as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things “HARD” to be “UNDERSTOOD”, which the “UNLEARNED” and “UNSTABLE” PERVERT, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own “DESTRUCTION”) .
II Peter 3:15-16
Those who despise “PAUL” and “PERVERTS” his “WRITINGS” due to their “LACK of UNDERSTANDING” was heading to their own “DESTRUCTION”…
WHY?…BECAUSE THAT WHAT’S THE “DOGS” AND “SWINE” DO “BEST”…
Do not give that which is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet and turn again and tear you.
Matthew 7:6
It is USELESS giving something “HOLY” to someone that has no “UNDERSTANDING”.They will just continue speaking “EVIL” of the things that they “do not understand”.
But these, as unreasoning natural brute animals having been born for capture and corruption, speak evil of the things that they do not understand. And they will utterly perish in their own corruption ,
II Peter 2:12
I rest my case…
To pathfinder,
WHY WONT YOU START PATIENTLY EXPLAINING TO THEM IF THEY HAVE A VALID QUESTION INSTEAD OF YOU BRAGGING ABOUT AND THROWING HARSH WORDS ON THEM?! WILL YOU STOP IT!!!!
To faithfulness, im very sorry for the harsh words being thrown at you and I just hope you will not be disheartened by it and you would continue your search for the truth as I have found it. I wish you good health and may God be with you.
TO quiel,
Before you say that i’m “BRAGGING ABOUT”,read first
this “Conclusion” made by “faithlessness”…
“Conclusion”: Paul said: “BE IMITATORS OF ME! Bro. eli “imitated” him, he is following the foostep of Paul, thus the “contradiction” of bro. eli’s teaching is “understandable”.
that person your talking to don’t need “EXPLAINING”…
they already have a “Conclusion” on their “HEADS”…
I know when someone is “seeking answers” and defenitely their not the kind…
Your “PATIENCE” will just go to “WASTE” trying to “EXPLAIN”…
If “DEFENDING” Bro.Eli and PAULS persons are “BRAGGING ABOUT” to your thinking…
then I will ACCEPT it,my BROTHER…
But as long as I have the chance,strength and will…
I will shout their “transgressions” and I will not allow anyone to “humiliate” GOD,Bro.Eli or any Apostle’s NAME…
To quiel,
My dear, thank you for your counter-arguments, it is truly appreciated!
May the Spirit of kindness be with you always, God bless!
” Unless the heart and mind is sacred, you cannot see what is sacred”
You are indeed a light to your congregation!
To pathfinder,
Why dont you just accept the honest fact that you just dont know how to answer the valid question raised by faithfulness about those supposed biblical contradiction and instead of answering his or her valid question you just resort to unnecessary throwing of harsh and totally unnecessary citing of Bible verses.
ONE PIECE OF ADVICE TO YOU BROTHER(?), YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO EFFECTIVELY USE T-A-C-T OR TACT.
im not against this but i just want to clarify this, what about the verses exodus 32:14 to the verses numbers 23:19, 1 samuel 15:29, psalms 110:4, and Ezekiel 24:14? was this a mistranslation?
To faithfulness,
I just feel very honored by your remarks although I feel I am very much not worth it. Im just a lowly crippled man. I am a polio victim and bound to my wheelchair for life, a social outcast, PRACTICALLY A NOBODY, you can even consider me a dirt in this world, garbage maybe, USELESS.
Even though I feel so honored by your remarks faithfulness, I REFUSE TO ACCEPT YOUR THANKS FOR MY COUNTER-ARGUMENTS AND THE STATEMENT THAT YOU SAID AND I QUOTE;” You are indeed a light to your congregation!”
WHY?
I just want to share to you a Bible passage and please let us read;
In the book of John chapter 8 verse 12 it reads,
“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
If we will look up the word “world” in the verse from the original greek manuscripts we will find the word “kosmos” which means “system” or “UNIVERSE”.
ACCORDING TO THE VERSE THAT WE HAVE JUST READ, IT IS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST THAT IS THE LIGHT OF THE UNIVERSE AND I CAN NEVER ACCEPT THAT I AM THE LIGHT OF OUR CONGREGATION BECAUSE IT IS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE TRUE BIBLICAL LIGHT OF THE TRUE CONGREGATION OR CHURCH OF GOD IN THE BIBLE.
If it just so happen that you have been enlightened by my counter-argument, it is the making of our Almighty God and our Lord Jesus Christ. They deserve the credit and I don’t deserve it even a bit. It just so happen that Bro. Eli thought us the idea in my counter-argument I just merely relayed to you what I have learned through Bro. Eli’s teachings.
I just hope faithfulness that you will continue your search for the truth as I have found it and it has been now my dream that someday we will share a common faith and experience spirituality like you have never experienced before.
MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND I WISH YOU GOOD HEALTH
God will not contradict himself, but Humans will.
The bible? Ha! Thats a human creation. Its not 100% true. You cant base faith on the Bible, on the Gospels or on anything human.
Hey Seven, I was instantly irritated by your UTTERLY IDIOTIC post in #64. The Bible is intended to be read by HUMAN BEINGS so it is but natural to be written by human beings to be understood by another human being. I hope you dont mind my asking Seven but WHAT MADE YOU THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT 100% TRUE? WHAT IS IT THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE THAT YOU DONT BELIEVE?
These people bambi, thinker, nagsusuri, seven, and others would not stop at anything if only to prove their notion that GOD contradict HIMSELF, just because they can not seem to understand some verses in the bible, You people must know that not all men are given the gift to understand it. MARK 4:11-AND HE SAID UNTO THEM, UNTO YOU IT IS GIVEN TO KNOW THE MYSTERY OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD: BUT UNTO THEM THAT ARE WITHOUT, ALL THESE THINGS AREN DONE IN PARABLES. And if you read up to 4:12, you people will know why there seems to be many contradictions. You are not hopeless, since it might have been the will of GOD that you chanced upon this blog of Bro Eli, just go on and continue blogging, and the grace of GOD might favor that our TRUE GOD in the bible as preached by Bro Eli, do not and will never contradict HIMSELF. HE might pity you and give you a chance also to be saved. LETS HONOR AND GLORIFY GOD ALMIGHTY.
to Seven,
“FAITH” means “TRUST”…
and you put your “TRUST” on something you “BELIEVE” in.
If your “LOGIC” was…
You don’t “TRUST” the Bible because it’s a “HUMAN CREATION”…
Then don’t use a “TOILET”… it’s a “HUMAN CREATION”,Ha?!…
Don’t wear any “CLOTHES”…those are “HUMAN CREATION”,Ha?!Ha?!…
Don’t use any MAN MADE transportation…
In short,live in the “MOUNTAINS”,find a “CAVE”,and STAY THERE,Ha?!Ha?!Ha?!…
(another “CLOWN” in the house…must be one of the “SEVEN” dwarves?!)
to Seven (posrt #64)
You said…
God will not contradict himself, but Humans will.
The bible? Ha! Thats a human creation. Its not 100% true. You cant base faith on the Bible, on the Gospels or on anything human.
I say…
If not humans, what else should write the Bible? An elephant or a monkey? I can’t imagine myself reading a verse to a person and saying “In the book of prophet Elephant chapter 2 verse 5, it reads…”
If a cat or some ninja turtles wrote the Bible, would you believe it? I doubt it.
But let’s follow your line of reasoning. Let’s pretend that I’m presenting you a letter and I say that the letter is written by God. Would you believe me? You might not believe me either even if I told you the bible is written by God; and, I can now imagine you saying to me this: “You’re just a human saying that this bible is written by God, How can I believe you”.
My God is wiser than you or anyone of us. He knows what’s best. If he wants the Bible be written by human, so be it. And besides, there’s a mystery why the Bible is written by human not by angels. A mystery that you will never know while you’re outside the true Chuch of God.
I pray for your enlightenment.
Toilets dont flush all the time and clothes rip… they arent perfect either.
Thats the thing really, I dont say all of it is untrue but I say that it does have its errors. New Testament and Old Testament seem to conflict with each other and even the Gospels themselves conflict. Compare one verse to another, there are obvious differences. When translating something to another language, it still does not always end up as it was meant to be now does it? Samething, the bible has been passed on and on, translated again and again. Some translators probably changed parts they wanted to, a mistranslation could have and probably did occur(compare the many versions of the bible and a bible in Hebrew). Its like the law, always changing, when things change, they could end up better… or be more curropted. The New testament was made of books put together around… 400 A.D? Over 3 centuries from where Jesus just left His mark, I wonder how much could have changed by that much amount of time. Also, the chose certain books… not all. The Dead Sea Scrolls were versions of the Gospels and yet were not made into Gospels. These books all have different veiws and even different sayings and all claim to be the sayings of Jesus. How do you know which to beleive in? Or do you choose which one to beleive in because it suited you? That can be a possibility now and a possibility when it was made…
Hi otan,
They may see or hear the mystery, but will never understand.
to seven,
When it seems to conflict your understanding,It doesn’t mean that it’s wrong or contradicting.
It’s just you “lack” Understanding.
and putting a “conclusion” on something that you don’t understand is not the “Scientific Aproach”.
ex:I don’t know “Algebra”,it seems contadicting and out of my understanding capability.
-would I conclude that “Algebra” was wrong and cannot be trusted?or…
-would it be best to ask someone “knowledgeable” to teach me things that seems to be contradicting on my head?
“Science” is about constant learning,investigating and experiments that leads to new discoveries and knowledge that helps us to better understand what we are and the world we live in.
If Science stopped to a “conclussion”,there wouldn’t be a SpaceStation,Satellites,Cellphones and other things that you see present today.
When your in “doubt”,don’t put a “conclusion”…
ask someone “Knowledgeable”.
Ps:Don’t worry about the translations,the original scriptures are still intact and available for us not to be led astray.
FIRST OF THREE
Hi seven how are you?
Like you I do have the same questions before. I also questioned the divine veracity of the Bible and too have found supposed contradictions in them and I will admit that I have entertained the “philosophy” for a very long time. Like you I was once an atheist like I do not believe there is God and stuffs like that you know. For me the Bible was just a civilized bureaucratic massacre invented by human imagination intended to curb microeconomic behavior. It was just written by man anyways and there is NEVER a way for me to see what is there beyond the metric system. You are not alone with the same kind of questions believe me.
I also believed in evolution before, us having an australopithecine as our most recent common ancestor. Believed in the concept of genetic drift, horizontal gene transfer, natural selection, mutation, etc. YOU NAME IT, I BELIEVED IN IT as long as it is MATHEMATICALLY and SCIENTIFICALLY acceptable.
Maybe you are wondering SO WHAT HAPPENED? WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAVE EMBRACED THE BIBLE AS MY “MOST BASIC DOCUMENT” AND HAVE BELIEVED IN AN EXISTING GOD?
It all started with one question,
WHAT CAUSES LIFE TO EXIST?
In my attempt to answer this question, I started to search for clues, PHYSICAL CLUES, so I started with AMINO ACIDS and PROTEIN MOLECULES and another vital chemical element which is called CARBON.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I FOUND OUT SEVEN?
According to the theory of evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe — just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came to life. However, SCIENTISTS DON’T REALLY KNOW HOW LIFE CAME TO BE. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most biology text books, says that THE ORIGIN OF LIFE IS STILL UNKNOWN. The idea that dead material can come to life all by itself is NOT CONSISTENT with scientific observation. The leading mathematicians in the century met with some evolutionary biologists and confronted them with the fact that according to mathematical statistics, THE PROBABILITIES OF A CELL OR A PROTEIN MOLECULE COMING INTO EXISTENCE WERE NIL. They even constructed a model of a large computer and tried to figure out the possibilities of a cell ever happening. THE RESULT WAS ZERO POSSIBILITY! Under normal circumstances, creatures give birth to the same kind of creatures. It is established scientific fact that like begets like. On rare instances, the DNA in an embryo is damaged, resulting in a mutant child that differs in some respect from its parent. Although a few mutations have been scientifically observed that are beneficial, most mutations produce inferior offspring. For the theory of evolution to be true, there must be a FANTASTIC number of creative mutations that produce new kinds of offspring which are better suited for survival, and therefore are favored by natural selection. Darwinists claim that the reptile-to-mammal evolution is well documented. But for reptiles to evolve into mammals at least some of these transformations must have happened:
1. Scales had to have mutated into hair.
2. Breasts had to have evolved from nothing.
3. Externally laid eggs had to evolve into soft-shelled eggs that were nourished by an umbilical cord and placenta in a womb.
ALL OF THESE WERE NEVER DOCUMENTED THROUGH FOSSIL EVIDENCES
SECOND OF THREE
It has NEVER been observed in any laboratory that mutations can cause one species to turn into another. Despite this, evolutionists believe that given enough time, some animals will eventually evolve into other creatures. Evolutionists claim that although we have not actually observed these things happening, that does not mean that they are impossible. They say it simply means they are EXTREMELY IMPROBABLE. Evolutionists think the world has been around long enough for all these HIGHLY IMPROBABLE things to happen. Scientific evidence casts serious doubts on the theory of evolution, for example:
1. The Fossil Record – the fossil record has been AGAINST the darwinian theory from the very beginning. It’s true that different kinds of organisms lived on the earth at different times. But what is NOT SEEN in the fossil record is the steady progressive change of one kind of thing into something completely different. Instead, if something new shows up in the rocks, it shows up all at once and fully formed, and then it stays the same. If evolution means the steady progressive change of one kind of thing into something completely different, then THE FOSSIL RECORD CONTRADICTS EVOLUTION. Given the absence of transitional forms in the fossil record, evolutionists quietly acknowledge this is still a “research issue”. There is virtually nothing in the fossil record that can be used as evidence of a transitional life form when apparent examples of useful mutations are examined thoroughly, it becomes clear that no transitional creatures exist anywhere in the fossil record. John Bonner, a biologist at Princeton, writes that traditional textbook discussions of ancestral descent are “a festering mass of unsupported assertions.” In recent years, paleontologists have retreated from simple connect-the-dot scenarios linking earlier and later species. Instead of ladders, they now talk of bushes. What we see in the fossils, according to this view, are only the twigs, the final end-products of evolution, while the key transitional forms which would give a clue about the origin of major animal groups REMAIN COMPLETELY HIDDEN. The blank spots on evolutionary “tree” charts occur at just the points where, according to Darwin’s theory, the crucial changes had to take place. The direct ancestors of all the major orders: primates, carnivores, and so forth are completely missing. There is no fossil evidence for a “grandparent” of the monkey, for example. “Modern gorillas, orangutans, and chimpanzees spring out of nowhere,” writes paleontologist Donald Johansen. “They are here today; they have no yesterday.” The same is true of giraffes, elephants, wolves, and all species; they all simply burst upon the scene de novo [anew], as it were. So many questions arise in the study of fossils (paleontology) that even many evolutionary paleontologists put little stock in the fossil record. Basing one’s belief in evolution on the shaky ground of paleontology can scarcely be considered scientific. The fossil record is often so sparse that . . . there are numerous cases where groups survived for tens of millions of years WITHOUT LEAVING A SINGLE FOSSIL. A criticism of the evolutionary idea was, and is, the lack of the hypothesized intermediates between one species and another. If land animals truly came from sea creatures, one would expect to find plenty of evidence of this, such as fossils of fish with their fins turning into legs. Darwin wrote in his Origin of Species that “innumerable transitional forms must have existed.” The predicted large numbers of fossil intermediate forms were never found.
2. Living Fossils – Since 1822 thousands of previously unknown animals have been found, many of which are known as “living fossils” – animals that once known only by its fossilized bones and presumed to have been extinct for millions of years and used as “proof” of evolution. But then, TO THE EMBARRASSMENT OF SCIENTISTS, THESE ANIMALS WERE LATER FOUND TO BE ALIVE IN REMOTE PARTS OF THE WORLD. Charles Darwin, himself, coined this term. In the Origin of Species he called lungfish and other species whose form remained unchanged since its inception “anomalous forms” that “may almost be called living fossils.” LIVING FOSSILS ARE LIVING PROOF OF THE ACCURACY WITH WHICH PLANTS AND ANIMALS REPRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THE FACT THAT MANY ARE NOT CHANGING AT ALL. The Okapi was once thought to have been extinct until they were found still living. These animals were once used as evidence that the horse had evolved. The Australian and African lungfish are . . . living fossils. They all look “primitive” and have lobed fins. Obviously lungfish can’t be our ancestors because they have remain unchanged, again for 400 million years. Another animal, the horseshoe crab, would be a great candidate for our ancestor. It looks “primitive” and leaves the ocean to spawn on dry land. However, it, too, is a living fossil, appearing about 425 million years ago in the Silurian period, and remaining unchanged. Similarly, gars, sturgeons, bowfins, and paddlefish all look “primitive” but are living fossils. Yet they are doing nicely in today’s environment. IN 1994. in Wollemi National Park (in the Blue Mountains) the New South Wales National Parks and Wildlife Services found a pine tree once thought to be extinct. They are close relations to plants only found in the so called “Jurassic and Cretaceous” periods. (65-200 million years ago). There are very few of these trees left in an isolated area. The following aquatic animals alive today are also examples of creatures that have not evolved since their fossil ancestors:- lobsters, crayfish and rays (fossils found in Jurassic rock), lampshells, mussels oysters, thumb nail shells (fossils found in Carboniferous rock), sharks (fossilized teeth found in Devonian rock), mackerel, perch, herring, jelly fish, fogs, the nautilus etc. Of the 12,000 fossilized insects the majority are similar to living types of insect found today. The fossils of bees, ants, cicadas, beetles, termites or cockroaches, and other insects are always practically identical with (though often larger than) their SUPPOSED modern descendants. The same applies to the arachnids and myriapods. Other famous living fossils include the tuatara (supposedly extinct since the Cretaceous Period until found still living in New Zealand), the Lepidocaris crustacean (only found as fossils in Devonian rocks), the lingula brachiopod (“extinct” since the Ordovician), and even the trilobite (chief index fossil of the even more ancient Cambrian Period). If all of these species have not evolved in 50 million, 100 million or even 200 million years, then WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THAT THEY (OR ANYTHING) HAVE EVOLVED? Some changes due to speciation have occurred, but NOT THE LARGE SCALE CHANGES THAT EVOLUTION SUPPOSES. The list goes on; example after example of no change from one type of animal to another in the fossil record. Darwin tried to cover over this embarrassment by saying the fossil record is incomplete, but it wasn’t then and it’s not now. What we know about living fossils, then and now, is a representative sample of the fossil record.
3. The Cambrian “Explosion” – Nearly all animal phyla made their first appearance in the fossil record at essentially the same time, an interval of some 5 million years (about 525 to 530 million years ago) called the “Cambrian Explosion.” Scientists have found that these early fossils exhibit more anatomical body designs than exist today, and that early animals, the trilobites, had eyes as fully developed as their counterparts today. Many of the Cambrian fauna, still survive today, all looking much like they did over 500 million years ago. The prominent British evolutionist, Richard Dawkins, comments, “… [W]e find many of them already in an advanced state of evolution, the very first time they appear. It is as though they were just planted there, without any evolutionary history.” Two places in the world that have an abundance of early (Cambrian) fossils; the Burgess Shale in the Canadian Rockies and the Chengjiang site in China. In Stephen J. Gould’s popular book, Wonderful Life, he points out that the Burgess Shale Cambrian fossils include “a range of disparity in anatomical design never again equaled, and not matched today by all the creatures in the world’s oceans.” Further, these fossils contain some twenty to thirty kinds of arthropods that cannot be placed in any modern group. The modern arthropods, consisting of almost a million species, can all fit into four major groups. But “one quarry in British Columbia, representing the first explosion of multicellular life, reveals more than twenty additional arthropod designs.” TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT 38 PHYLA IN EXISTENCE, BUT THE CANADIAN, CHINESE AND OTHER CAMBRIAN SITES REVEAL OVER FIFTY PHYLA. There has been a DECREASE IN DIVERSITY (probably due to global catastrophes). This is the REVERSE of what evolutionary theory predicts. Besides diversity, the Burgess Shale shows exquisite detail, right down to “the last filament of a trilobite’s gill,” or the last meal in a worm’s gut. The Chengjiang site has even greater detail, and is earlier. According to Paul Chien, the chairman of the biology department at the University of San Francisco, said the preservation is such that internal organs, nerves, and even the water ducts of jellyfish are observable. Researchers found striking similarities between the compound eyes of the Cambrian trilobites and those of modern insects. According to Riccardo Levi-Setti, “Trilobites could see in their immediate environment with amazingly sophisticated optical devices in the form of large composite eyes. … The number of individual optical elements in the compound eye could vary from approximately one hundred to more than fifteen thousand in a single eye, a range not very different from that found in modern insects.” The conclusion is that the eye, a complex visual system, was fully formed and functional extremely early in the fossil record. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT PREDICTED BY EVOLUTIONARY THEORY. Until recently, the phylum of vertebrates had been considered a later arrival in evolutionary history. BUT NOT NOW! Even the vertebrate phylum now extends into the Cambrian period, especially with the recent discovery of two fossil fish in China. The two new fossils . . . from Chengjiang are the most convincing Early Cambrian vertebrates ever found. The insects and other land invertebrates are also a very important group, and these practically all seem to be living fossils. These complex animals were present at the beginning of multicellular life and did not appear later as is predicted by evolutionary theory. EVOLUTION DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE ABRUPT APPEARANCE OF COMPLEX FORMS OF LIFE EARLY IN THE FOSSIL RECORD OR THESE FOSSILS’ UNEQUALED DIVERSITY. The implication of the Cambrian explosion of diverse, fully functional, and multicellular life is that evolutionary theory is FALSIFIED. Life did not start out simple and evolve into more complex and diverse animals; IT WAS COMPLEX AND DIVERSE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. This CONTRADICTION between the fossil data and the predictions of evolutionary theory FALSIFIES the theory. Even George Gaylord Simpson, Harvard high priest of evolution had to admit, “In spite of the examples, it remains true (as every paleontologist knows) that most new species, genera and families appear in the record suddenly, and are not led up to by known, gradual, completely continuous transitional sequences.”
4. The so called “Missing Links” – The following are some of a few SCIENTIFICALLY OBSERVABLE and WELL DOCUMENTED examples:
NEANDERTHAL MAN: When this prehistoric man was first discovered, ONLY PART OF AN ARM WAS RECOVERED. Yet, the scientific community FABRICATED an entire ancient society around an arm bone. Scientists have since found quite a few Neanderthals and after careful study have concluded that THESE ANCESTORS WERE REGULAR HUMANS WITH BONE DISEASE, PROBABLY RICKETS.
PILTDOWN MAN: For more than 50 years we were led to believe that this ancient creature was another supposed ancestor of modern man. Two scientists eventually took a closer look and found out that Piltdown man was a FRAUD. This INVENTED creature was a composite of the jawbone of an orangutan and the skull of a small child. The original “discoverers ” had stained these bone fragments to gain recognition and promote the falsehood of evolution.
NEBRASKA MAN: One ancient tooth was discovered in Nebraska. Eager evolutionists built a whole imaginary society and lifestyle around this single tooth! When they found the rest of the skull some two years later, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE TOOTH BELONGED TO A PIG. For many years, evolutionists described Nebraska Man as a missing link.
JAVA MAN: This prehistoric man was found on the island of Java and was reported to be the missing link between man and ape. After serious study it was found that the two pieces of Java Man were from two different skulls from two different areas of the island. Both were from the same species, probably an Orangutan, but they were not the parts of a man. Recent human skulls have now been discovered in the same layer of rock.
PEKING MAN: This manlike creature was found in China during the early part of this century. No other scientists have directly observed this site and it has not actually been seen in more than 50 years. All of the examples of Peking Man were reported to have the back of their skulls smashed in, EXACTLY MATCHING THE RESULT WHEN PEOPLE OF THAT REGION HUNT FOR MONKEY BRAINS. Also, MODERN HUMAN REMAINS WERE FOUND AT THE SAME SITE.
LUCY: Lucy is the latest find that has been almost universally accepted as mankind’s ancestor. Lucy is an Australopithecus, that is actually more like a monkey than man. When the bones were studied by spectrograph, THEY WERE FOUND TO MATCH A CHIMPANZEE, RATHER THAN A MAN. Lucy too, is a MOSAIC, with BONES ASSEMBLED FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
LAETOLI FOOTPRINTS: These footprints were found in the same strata as the Lucy bones. Evolutionary scientists have said that Lucy-like animals made these, but a podiatrist concluded they are modern human footprints. It appears that Lucy is not an ancestor of modern man, but simply a MONKEY
KENYA SKULL: Recently it was reported that scientists had discovered a fossil of a skull in Kenya that evolutionists claim has more human-like features than “Lucy.” This means that evolutionary scientists MUST ONCE AGAIN REVISE their theory of man’s origin. Ken Ham, Executive Director of Answers in Genesis says that the newly discovered fossil – which he says is NOTHING MORE THAN THE SKULL OF A CHIMPANZEE – only pokes more holes in the argument for evolution.
ARCHAEOPTERXY: Originally thought of as a transitional fossil between the reptiles and birds, it is now considered by most evolutionists to be a true bird. Also true birds have been found lower in the fossil record, making them older than Archaeopteryx. Chinese paleontologist Xu Xing contends that Archaeopteryx is a combination of two fossils: one of the body and head of a birdlike creature and the other of the tail of a dinosaur. Xing says he has found another fossil, in a private collection in China, that contains the mirror image of the supposed tail of the Archaeoraptor. National Geographic published a note in its March 2000 issue saying that CT scans of the fossil appear to confirm Xing’s observations and “revealed anomalies in the fossil’s reconstruction.”
To sum it up, here is what Dr. Austin Clark, a leading biologist of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington has to day about the subject: “No matter how far back we go in the fossil record of previous animal life on earth, we find no trace of any animal forms which are intermediate between the major groups of phyla. Scientists have sometimes come up with a few things that they have elected as candidates as transitions, but on a later closer examination these have been seen to be misinterpretations. There are no such things as missing links. … Missing links are misinterpretations.”
“Science now knows that many of the pillars of Darwinian theory are either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them as factual evidence of evolution. What does this imply about their scientific standards?” — Jonathan Wells (Recipient of Ph.D. in Molecular and Cell Biology from the University of California at Berkeley. Has worked as a postdoctoral research biologist at the University of California at Berkeley and the supervisor of a medical laboratory in Fairfield, California. Has taught biology at California State University in Hayward.)
After me knowing all these irrefutable facts, I started to investigate further with two analytical question in mind,
WHAT IS THEN THE MEANING OF MY LIFE? WHY DO I EXIST?
I started to deeply investigate the MEANING of life outside ephemeral arguments. I started to CHANGE my perspective from that of a STERN SKEPTIC to a COMPREHENSIVE THINKER. I resorted to pure logic and valid deductions. I appreciated more the concept of MATHEMATICAL INFINITY and RADICAL MEASURES knowing the FACT that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR US HUMAN BEINGS TO PERCIEVE WHAT IS BEYOND OUR MORPHOLOGICAL SENSES.
THEN CAME THE BIBLE….
To cut the very long story short, IT IS ONLY THE BIBLE THAT OFFERED ME SENSIBLE ANSWERS TO ALL MY QUESTIONS REGARDING EXISTENCE AND BEING. At this point seven, I INVITE YOU TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND AND DEEPLY INVESTIGATE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT IS IN STORE IN THE BIBLE. You’ll never know what it really contains….. I just hope you will also experience the knowledge that I have known from the Bible because I guarantee you seven, THE BIBLE REALLY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
Quiel, your post is very informative.
What Darwin offers is just a theory based on lies and deception; what the Bible offers is a scientific and historical facts, knowledge and wisdom, plus a bonus of spiritual knowledge which science until now can’t explain.
To God be the glory! FOREVEEEEERRR!!!!!!!
the analysis of bro. eli is very pantastic u ar the great analogy
thinker n logician u r both stupid.caio ay sa amang diablou nio.mga camfon ng kadeleman.
Thanks be to God for another informative article by bro. Eli. As I read the post of Quiel, I was more convinced about the greatness of the God that the Church of God serves. Thanks be to God for His wonderful, majestic and astonishing creations and for His unspeakable gifts. Thank God for bro.Eli and Bro. Daniel…
To God be the Glory!Amen.
AMEN…
there’s a thing that is impossible with God…to lie.
are you sure of what you are preaching and telling to the people…………??
then try to refute openly if you have doubts!
belated happy b-day to bro. eli soriano may God bless u always… ur the only 1 preacher in our time……………. gogogo brod. eli dipa ako kanib but i beleb you…..