They alleged that “Jonah did not live inside a fish’s stomach for three days like the Bible says”— another blatant lie from these ‘imaginary people!The Bible never said that Jonah lived in the fish’s stomach for three days.What was said is recorded on Jonah 1:17. [digg=http://digg.com/general_sciences/The_Fish_that_Swallowed_Jonah]
“Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.”
What the verse says is that Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights.What kind of a fish swallowed Jonah?It is a non-carnivorous fish.So, it does not have digestive enzymes, like a carnivorous fish, that can hastily kill Jonah.How do we know that it is a non-carnivorous fish?Jonah 2:1-5 has this to say:
“Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly, And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I,and thou heardest my voice.For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.The waters compassed me about,even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.”
The fish which swallowed Jonah is not carnivorous because it feeds on weeds! The Lord Jesus Christ, in the book of Matthew, gives us an idea of what was the condition of Jonah inside the belly of the ‘great fish’.
(Matthew 12:40)“for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
When the Lord Jesus Christ was in the ‘heart of the earth’, His body was dead or unconscious.The probability of Jonah being also in the same situation can be gleaned by the use of the phrase “for as Jonah… so will the Son of Man be.”This is evidenced by what Jonah said on:
(Jonah 2:6)“I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me forever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
(Jonah 2:1-2)“Then Jonah prayed to the LORD his God from the belly of the fish, Saying, “I called to the LORD, out of my distress, and he answered me; out of the belly of Sheol I cried, and thou didst hear my voice.” (RSV)
Of course, it is not impossible for God to bring Jonah back to life if he died for three days and three nights, but nowhere in the Bible does it say that he lived in the ‘fish stomach’ for three days and three nights.I hope that you can see the ignorance of this imaginary people, with imaginary intelligence, and imaginary scientific mind!What they charge the Bible as ‘scientific nonsense’ is exactly scientific.Scientifically, there are fish large enough to allow a man to stay in its belly.Scientifically, there are non-carnivorous fish.
Uric Acid: Toxic Component of Meat to Humans
About 5% of the flesh volume of all animals consists of waste material called uric acid that is normally eliminated by the kidneys. Uric acid is a poison to humans because it is toxic and non-metabolizable. Nearly 100% of Americans suffer some form of osteoporosis which is due in large part, to the acidic end-products of meat (and grain) eating. All carnivorous animals however, secrete the enzyme uricase that breaks down uric acid so it can be readily eliminated. Humans do not generate this enzyme. Instead, we ABSORB uric acid when meat is eaten. As a result, calcium-urate crystals form and concentrate in joints, feet, and in the lower back. These deposits lead to arthritis, gout, rheumatism, bursitis, and lower back pain. Humans are physiologically unsuited to utilizing meat as food. Natural carnivores swallow hunks of carrion almost unchewed, and the flesh is digested in the stomach with ease and facility. If humans were to do the same, we would digest very little of it before putrefaction set in and illness ensued. For humans, meat is a pathogenic and nutritionally deficient food.
Saliva pH Varies Widely Among Species
The saliva pH of various species is another determinant of their natural diet. In carnivores, their saliva glands are small and secrete an acid saliva having little or no effect on starch, which makes sense since flesh is virtually starch-free. Omnivores (like pigs) have tremendous salivary glands that secrete copious quantities of starch-splitting enzymes. Humans only have one starch-splitting enzyme, versus a multitude of them in omnivores and other natural starch-eating animals. Our ptyalin is very limited. This rules us out as being true granivores (starch-eaters) which includes grains and cereals. Frugivores have salivary glands that secrete alkaline saliva, containing only moderate amounts of ptyalin, which initiates starch digestion. This tells us that humans and other frugivores can easily digest the small amount of starch contained in fresh fruits, nuts, and leafy greens, and that humans are not intended to subsist on a diet of highly starchy grain foods as many currently do. (Diabetes mellitus is largely the result of consuming large amounts of refined sugars and starches. Even eating predominantly of whole grains and natural legumes as dietary staples can be injurious because of the need for excessive starch digestion). (http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm)
Scientifically, carnivorous fish has digestive enzymes in its stomach that works in the digestion of protein.Jonah is a man made up of protein.Scientifically, the fish that swallowed him is not a carnivorous fish.It has weeds in its belly. Its digestive enzymes are different from those of carnivorous fish.So, what happened to Jonah is scientifically possible.Of course, it miraculously happened also!
(Luke 18:27)“And he said,The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.”
good point about the weed in the belly
one question though, if jonah was “dead” while in the belly, how would he cry out of the belly of hell and say something about weed wrapped around his feet?
good question, but it didn’t say there that he cried all through those 3 days..could be inbetween or after. just a thought though 🙂
I’m not pretty sure if this child talk would make sense… and so I smile to myself as I recall –
A kid once asked his aunt, “Can a person live inside a fish’ belly, auntie?” Just before the aunt could reply, the kid butted in and said, “Oh yeah, if worms can live inside my tummy, so can man live inside a big fish’ stomach too!”
In this scenario, indeed, the things that are impossible with men are possible with God.
It’s great!Bro Eli is the BEST PREACHER in the whole world.I’ll look forward to his next blog!
if scientists can preserve life in tubes, the more God can (ICor:25)
Statements for those who doubt Jonah’s story
Why question the story of Jonah? Is there any impossibilities to God? That is why He is “GOD”, because He has the power even the power to bring life after death or save someone from life-threatening situation. I believe whatever the bible tells us about the story of Jonah. Scientific investigation does not actually shows how curious or intelligent the people are, but it shows how people are so skeptical to what God can do. Sometimes being too intelligent shows lack of common sense.
I think scientist today or all those Bible critics person in this planet, if you do still have sense, should make a review about the thruth in the Bible…and if ye dont understand what the Bible say..this is a simple unsolicited advice…Ask brother Eli Soriano and the Bible will answer…you can hang me if im wrong…Think people…Jonah was swallowed…..do you know what swallow meant??how do you swallow??….read people,ye that still do not believe…read……..
Dear Blackendgray,
Although I did not say that he is dead inside the belly of the fish that swallowed him, you have pressumed maybe because of the expression “as Jonah… so shall the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth”, and that is logical! But, an animal like a man can be in a state of ‘suspended hibernation’, as though dead, but not dead! And this can happen to Jonah after he have cried from the belly of the fish to the Lord, and God may cause this situation to pacify and help Jonah in his distress. There is no record on what particular point in time, during the three days and three nights that he is in the belly of the fish, when Jonah lamented and said those words, but the most logical time to believe he said these things is immediately before the fish expelled him out of its belly (Note: Jonah 2:6)
“I went down to the bases of the mountains; as for the earth, her walls were about me for ever: but you have taken up my life from the underworld, O Lord my God.”
I was blown away with your exegesis regarding the digestive components of the fish that shallowed Jonah, Brother Eli. Yesterday, I was talking to a friend regarding this matter and you simply blurted out the facts that solidify my own explanation in this blog entry. Your blog indeed has all the necessary ingredients to satisfy anyone’s hunger from biblical and scientific truths. To God be the glory forever and always.
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Is there any preacher who would like to challenge Bro. Eli
about this Jonah thing?
I bet there is, but…… i think they don’t have the testicles to try to.
God was able to conceive you into your mother’s womb for 9 months, with only one sperm penetrating through the egg. Do you think it is impossible for God to save Jonah whom only for 3 days was in the belly of the fish?
Even as doing in vitro pregnancy is now possible.
I do believe this truly happened.
There a cases of clinically dead people, but was able to live by unexplainable reasons.
Just my share of thoughts.
Thank God.
Bro. Eli
You are trully send by god to preach the truth and nothing but truth.
God Bless you and we always pray for you.
The topic was well explained by Bro. Eli. Although I myself believe in what the Bible said about Jonah, I was really amazed how Bro. Eli explained it further by scientific proofs. It was informative indeed!
To God be the glory!
GOD will not do anything “that is nonsense”, so why question HIM? why question the authenticity of the bible and the stories behind it?
a BELIEVER in the TRUE GOD in the bible, believes anything without doubt even to the things he has’nt seen.
Even all of us, stay in our mother’s womb for 9 mos more or less, and still we are here discussing about this topic…
Aren’t they wonder how do we survive for 9 mos?
Yet they’re questioning Jonas situation inside the belly of a sea monster for just 3 days!
And if it is not for God’s will, we might not discussing this topic.
All impossible with man are possible with God! (Mat 19:25-26)
I hope Bro. Eli, correct me for any of my mistakes.
To God be the Glory!
IM SPEACHLESS!!! GREAT!!!
When I was a kid, there are imaginations coming in my head like for example; Jonah while inside the belly of the big fish, is awake and trying to figure out on how to get out.
Its only now, that i realise that he was there three days and three nights. I thank the LORD for enligthening me on this matter.
TGBTG!
TO MARVIN,
(My response is JUST for the sake of a “better argument” and NOT intended to rebut indiscriminately. Hope you’ll understand.)
The Bible skeptics would not of course marvel the fact that women reproduces their offspring that way. The impregnation and development if commonly takes up to 9 months.
So that analogy is obviously debatable.
An fetus was not swallowed from the external source, and then to the womb of its mother, and stayed there for 9 months in an transcendental manner!
This is a known biological development as a result of the physical union of male and female gametes, during sexual reproduction.
And modern science and discoveries of men can even brag their advance achievements like determining prior developmental stages of a fetus via ultrasound, and many other similar breakthroughs.
Now, for a non-fetus human being (like Jonah) to stay 3 days and 3 nights inside the belly of a sea creature is apparent to incite doubts to many rational thinkers because this is indeed a SPECIAL CASE.
Of course, if there is someone who’ll try to challenge and mimic the Jonas scenario, and found a similar big sea creature and letting himself be swallowed voluntarily will give us explicit outcome of failure.
Why? Because Jonas is not just any man, but a prophet of God! And for the big sea creature to readily swallow Jonah at that moment is also from God’s divine intervention.
Albeit, the physical possibilities for that scenario to be truthful is intelligibly laid down by Bro. Eli, we still cannot ignore the fact that many will not be convinced easily.
First, because they have preconceived biases against the very existence of God. Second, they chose to accept only physical aspects of reality, and doesn’t even bother to reconsider other factors beyond what is comfortable for them to believe.
But for those who have the true God-given faculty of rationality, sure they’ll understand.
This entry is highly satisfactory and truly commendable.
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WOW BRO. ELI I UNDERSTAND ALL THE FACTS AND CHANGE MY OWN EXPLAINATION ABOUT “JONAH” YOU ALSO ADDED ME SOME INFO ABOUT THE SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT THE FOOD THAT A MAN SHOULD EAT….. MORE POWER!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!!!!!!!!! JOSE navotas
still, the fish has not been specifically identified, we could only SPECULATE about what SPECIFIC and DETERMINATE fish swallowed Jonah.
it was indeed a great scientifically and biblically analysis….
more power to you Bro. Eli…
to god be the glory.with god’s help, you never fail to amaze me .more power!!
last time I thought that science and religion/ bible contradict with each other just like the story of creation and the origin of the universe as well.
but as per my readings base on the samples of bro Eli, it made me realize that since science is the study base on our senses and base on truth, then it should not vie the authority of the bible because the science of man yesterday is not the same as of today….yet the science of God remains constant..science of man fails but that of GOD always a victor.
These people lacks what the Bible calls ‘knowledge” of the scriptures which allows christians to digest the very information that GOD in CHRIST has instore for those that are HIS and them that seek GOD’s guidance to set us free from being simple and from folly that plague this corrupt generation that suffers degeneration from the most active perverts ever to appear,fulfilling their father’s desire!
Let not the mind of your pervert standard explain the Wisdom in the scriptures.
Imagination! yes,get back to bed and by the time you know it,your awake still in your folly of follies!
To R,
I think you have misundertand what I’ve said a while ago, I’m not questioning why we must argue regarding this matter. That’s why I’m posting my opininon in participation in this argument. — (Even all of us, stay in our mother’s womb for 9 mos more or less, and still we are here discussing about this topic…)
As you can see, this is not intended to question this argument, but to emphasize that we are still alive after that period of time.
What I’m questioning are those people who question the authenticity of the word of God in the bible.
Those people who believe in science yet don’t believe that the bible is scientifically accurate. It is for the reason that they did’nt see and make any scientific proof of it, that’s why they did’nt believe.
For them to see and study it first, before they do beleive and not wonder or question at all…but why do science use time in the formula of speed? Did they see time? or more properly to say that they see a clock and not a time…How come?…they are using something they didn’t see, ha…ha…ha… and if they are using it, they must beleive on it, right? Human modern science are merely…tsk…tsk…tsk…limited.(Isa 55:8-9). So let us not rely to much in our modern science.(Psalms 118:8)
Just like recently, if I’m not mistaken, how an egg of an insect hatches in a human eye? This is not human, just like the worms in our belly, so as a human in a sea monster’s belly. Now that they have seen, now that they beleived….. that it is possible anyway. (Mat 20:24-29).
Did the eye of this human swallow the egg of this insect?I just an incident, but if it’s not for the will of God, it would’nt happen.Like our hair, even sigle of it would’nt drop if it’s not for His will. (Mat 11:29-31). And for what have happen to Jonah that time, it is all the will of God…and for this, I can say that…”The Lord is my God”(Zec 13:9). To God be the Glory!
To R, I hope, i’m clear regarding our misunderstanding, but i’m always open for anyones opinion if they found anything wrong on what i have said…Another thing my friend, it is the sperm cell that was swallowed first and not a fetus, cause i’m not saying that a fetus was swallowed then. After all, sperm cell is also a living creature remember 🙂
AGAIN and AGAIN,,no one PREACHER in this time that can explain that…n_n…
Its great the Lord thy God!The word of God which is hidden for a long time are being revealed today by a man of God!To the people who dont agree with me……….give it a try to debate bro.Eli Soriano,and you will see……………the truth.
Anybody would try to debate bro eli?helllllllo any body??????????
ang lufet!!
I know not what to say, but Thank God!!!!
because it never happened.
This blog is very informative. It gives details of information you need to know. I really enjoy reading this blog. So skeptics, this blog would wipe out your doubts, not unless you continue to hold on to your folly.
It’s very clear! Each detail was given to give an answer to the hearts of those people who doubt the integrity of the Word of God in the Bible! Amazing! Bro. Eli is the best preacher in our time! God is with him! Take care always, Bro. Eli wherever you are! Mizpah!
hey samuel, dont get me wrong. i did not say it didnt happened but rather the fish was GENERICALLY identified in the bible and not SPECIFICALLY identified! i think the blog was clear that THERE REALLY IS A VERY HIGH DEGREE of POSIBILITY that such GENERIC fish swallowed Jonah. i am firm in my conviction that such biblical event IS VERY POSIBLE to have occured. am i making myself clear to you now samuel?
TO GOD BE THE GLORY…!!! we have to thank HIM forever..for giving us his servant bro.eli to lead us into our salvation…
….And for those who did not understand the Bible….prepare your self..!!! – keep going bro.eli…we need you.
What I think is that, this blog truly deserves to be at the number one spot at bloggerschoiceawards….. as best blog of all time since this site is really informative and the teachings of Bro. ELI is really biblical… no wonder why so many false preachers get insecured on him… and keeps on persecuting him… But still I thank God for letting us have a true preacher in this days…
More power BRO. ELI and may God be with you until the time comes…
More power BRO. ELI!!!!!
I’m a person who frequently seeks scientific explanations of things. In fact, currently I am in the field of Computer Science and IT. I have done a lot of projects on both aspects. I am currently the Head of the IT Department of a well-known Food Company. Having said this, I still I cannot challenge what Bro Eli is teaching eventhough he’s not even a high school graduate as they say. The only thing that makes sense here is that, in my opinion, he was sent by GOD. Even the best of all scientists cannot much a person sent by GOD.
To be a scientist is to believe in GOD.
I’m a person who frequently seeks scientific explanations of things. In fact, currently I am in the field of Computer Science and IT. I have done a lot of projects on both aspects. I am currently the Head of the IT Department of a well-known Food Company. Having said this, I still I cannot challenge what Bro Eli is teaching eventhough he’s not even a high school graduate as they say. The only thing that makes sense here is that, in my opinion, he was sent by GOD. Even the best of all scientists cannot match a person sent by GOD.
To be a scientist is to believe in GOD.
maybe those people questioning how jonah lived in the belly
of a fish did’nt believe in GOD, thanks be to GOD he sent a
man who can explained things like this.. this is only proofs how
authentic the bible is..thankz mr.soriano, it is a pleasure
reading your blog…GOD bless you
Bro. Eli is telling the truth, he just got his answers from the reports of the bible.
He has been tested by the decades of his preaching.
MOre power to bro. Eli.
You seemed to be logical person but I disagree on your findings and your interpretations. Why? You basically contradict yourself Mr. Eliseo… first, you mentioned these about science “…the ignorance of this imaginary people, with imaginary intelligence, and imaginary scientific mind! What they charge the Bible as ‘scientific nonsense’ is exactly scientific. Scientifically, there are fish large enough to allow a man to stay in its belly. Scientifically, there are non-carnivorous fish.” Then, you concluded this… “Scientifically, carnivorous fish has digestive enzymes in its stomach that works in the digestion of protein. Jonah is a man made up of protein. Scientifically, the fish that swallowed him is not a carnivorous fish. It has weeds in its belly. Its digestive enzymes are different from those of carnivorous fish.” Now, where do you stand from these… entire do you intend to refute science or do you refuse to believe science is just pure imagination and those were not to be taken literally? You even mentioned chemical compositions, balance and mixtures… those you said are scientifically made not by imaginations.
Bear in mind Mr. Eliseo, we live 90 percent of our lives now in SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES. The food you eat are grown with fertilizers, the meat you eat are fed with scientific processes, the car you drive or ride is scientifically made not by god, the house you built are processed with tools and machineries, the clothes you wear are processed to be sold. When you preach, make sure that all the things you say don’t contradict because all the posters here are (to my assumptions) your followers.
p.s. I’m pretty sure this will be removed… by I will make a copy of this in notepad. With your god’s faith, belief and open mindedness (?) – This will be removed; I’ll come back and post it again.
TO OYAAK -WAYUK, U SED” I’m pretty sure this will be removed”.WAS UR POST REMOVED AS WER ACCUSING THIS BLOG? NOPE!, RYT? NOW UR STUPID ACCUSATION CAME BACK FALLING ON UR FACE! HAV SOME SENSE OF TRUST TO UR FELLOW BEING.
U SED “you basically contradict urslf Mr.Eliseo” bec mr.eliseo sed…”the ignorance of these imaginary pipol,wid imaginary intelligence and imaginary scientific mind” what they charge the bible as “scientific nonsense” is exactly scientific”.WELL MAYBE UR NOT THAT LEARNED WHEN IT COMES TO CLASSIFYING THINGS THATS Y U CANNOT COMPREHEND WELL TO WAT MR.ELISEO WAS TRYING TO SAY.WELL,I WILL NOT BLAME U 4 THAT DISPLAY OF IGNORANCE HERE.
WELL 4 UR INFO WEN MR.ELISEO SED “THE IGNORANCE OF THESE IMAGINARY PIPOL,WID IMAGINARY INTELLIGENCE AND IMAGINARY SCIENTIFIC MIND” HE’S POINTING A PARTICULAR GRP.OF IGNORANT PIPOL HU HAS AN “IMAGINARY SCIENTIFIC MIND”THE KIND OF SCIENCE THESE IGNORANT PIPOL BELIEVES IS A KIND OF SCIENCE THAT REVOLVES ONLY ON PHYSICS AND STUPID ATHEISM BELIEFS WHILE ON THE OTHERHAND THE KIND OF SCIENCE THAT MR.ELISEO WAS USING WAS FAR MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND INTELLECTUAL THAN THE SCIENCE OF THE DESPERATE ATHEISTS BEC.THE SCIENCE THAT HE WAS USING WAS AN “ABSOLUTE DIVINE SCIENCE” W/C INOLVES NOT ONLY THE PHYSICAL THINGS BUT IT INCLUDES WISDOM AND SPIRITUALISM ALSO MAKING IT VERY DISTINCTIVELY DIFFERENT FRM THE SCIENCE OF IGNORANT IMAGINARY PIPOL W/C IS VERY NARROW.NOW, SEE THE DIFFERENCE!? THERES NO CONTRADICTION IF U WILL JUST FREE UR MIND.NOW IF DNT GET THAT TANGA KA NALANG CGURO LIKE THE IMAGINARY ATHEIST PIPOL.
AND EY!OYAAK-WAYUK,U SED THAT UR GONNA COME BACK TO POST THAT MSG AGAIN? DNT BOTHER , SAVE URSLF FRM HUMILATION, THERE’S NOTHIN GREAT ABOUT WAT U’VE POSTED! DNT IMAGINE TOO MUCH ,OKEY? U DNT WANNA TEAM-UP WID THOSE IMAGINARY PIPOL,RYT?
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More power to you Bro. Eli and I am hoping you will kick more asses(spiritually) of those who are maligning and those who disagree and contradict the bible.
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Please don’t ever feel tired and hopeless, we are always here to support and help you.
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Hi Bro. Eli Ijust want to request a topic
If you can grant me, I just want you to post a blog about the ANTI CHRIST. I believe this is a stupid request but I am just trying.
More power to you and please continue to be the salt and the light of the world!!!
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There is no other better person in our present time, who can better understand the bible, than the person whom God had been entrusted of understanding to His words.
EOYAK- YAK have you seen your comment was it removed? you see it, yeah,it’s right there.Mr. Soriano was not refuting science in fact true science is in the Bible,since the creator of Science is God,logically there are things scientific in the bible as Mr. Soriano stipulated in his topic of Jonah and the fish.Do not make accusations of things which are not done here,like removing your blog comments et al…any critic is welcome here…naysayers and all,in fact I was one too, twelve years ago.. but by the mercy and grace of God I was saved from ignorance,I hope any doubts you might have would not hinder you from further listening and hearing the words of God.
now mr yak,u r telling that the creator of science is GOD. it is clear to us now that you are the one whose condradicting ur statement and not bro.eliseo,because what u,ve stated in your previous post,that those food we eat,the car we drive and the houses we lived are made up of scince,tools etc. are made out ofscience and not by GOD.who has a contradicting statement now?
“TO OYAAK -WAYUK, U SED” I’m pretty sure this will be removed”.WAS UR POST REMOVED AS WER ACCUSING THIS BLOG? NOPE!, RYT? NOW UR STUPID ACCUSATION CAME BACK FALLING ON UR FACE! HAV SOME SENSE OF TRUST TO UR FELLOW BEING.”
Pretty much Mr. James because my last comments were deleted! Who is stupid now James? Because my answers to and your religion will not be heard because this blog is a one-sided. Have some sense of trust to my fellow being? Ask your site keeper first! This blog makes me laugh!
To: Tins L. Yabut,
You can ask your moderator, administrator, sitekeeper of this if I have not posted my answers… ACCUSE? I merely adding my point of views… but you sidetracked my whole point… why, if someone here takes on a different approach becomes an accusations? Heretic? Evil? Sinners? You were once a critic? Then, you have not seen what’s there to be criticized. I’ve been a critic for more than 27 years and I am still alive… not one accident or life threatening scenarios happened to me… you just don’t know what to criticize, that’s all.
Hi!
As a biologist, I do believe that science really supports the Holy Scriptures. I’ve found it out since I started listening to the preaching of Brother Eli Soriano.
At first, I kept on questioning his personality, his ideologies in life. However, as time goes by, I just then realized that what he says are true and real.
I always remember the days when he mentioned things about science from the Scriptures. Like the color of blood, the role of nature, the natural disasters, the movement of the waves, the current of the wind, the benefits of fasting, and a lot more to mention. I cannot explain how he made me smile and how he made me so happy.
Well! I really like dealing with straight forward people…That’s why I really like him!!!
oyaak-wayuk,
Don’t worry my friend, you have just found someone that you know in your heart that will set you free from where you are now… I don’t intend to say this in a sarcastic way.. I say it with good intention. Keep yourself connected with Bro Eli … soon you’ll find yourself… satisfied…no longer needed to feel emptiness… no need to worry about so much things in your present mind that no matter how well you try to know a lot about many things still there’s something missing…missing…but you know what you have just set your Foot my friend on this particular line where you can get your best options in life. This blog existed because of You and for those people whose looking for the right person that could answer all doubts in mind…just like me before >:D
bro eli,
thank you for the further information about jonas and scientific explanation aswell, more power to you and thanks god u still there.bro. actually im here right now working in kuwait since 2004,when i was in college i always listening in your program everyday and attending your bible expo in quiapo every monday after school.bro.eli i want to know if we have here a local in kuwait because i want to hear more word of god.thank you again bro.eli more power to you.
to the imaginary people :
bro eli answered the question “IN YOUR FACE”.
try to understand oyaak-wayuk,try the faith of christ and live, its a process of undestanding the word of god through bro eli soriano, so don’t depend on ur own belief, because bro eli is doing everything to reach people who doesn’t care of christ teaching…
David,
Don’t worry my friend, I have no intention in connecting or changes my beliefs to Mr. Eli Soriano and I don’t mean this in sarcastic way. You don’t need to remind me about missing… because there is always an answer… and no religion or your faith to your god are the only answers in life… I value life but religion is not part of it. It only makes you more hateful and selective and self-righteous and you compare faiths and beliefs (just as what you are doing right now). If you think that man can’t live without religion… then you’re missing something, somewhere.
Ren,
Faith doesn’t mean to have a better understanding through Mr. Soriano. Faith can and will always be acquired in any form… I can have faith of myself and the people the people that I truly know and that don’t include “god’s” guidance or understanding. In my own belief, I can depend on it because that’s how I live. No religion, no egos, no hypocrecy, no idealistic mind, and no christ teachings… I’m still in this world am I not?
I conclude my responses here for good and before that, try reading JAMES’s response to my first post, doesn’t it read like hatred to you, David? If the person found Christ, he should have set example as a floower of christ not hatred. How many times he had to say “STUPID” in his response? Is that what MR. Soriano’s been teaching all along? Plant hatred to all non-believers?
And to Mr. Soriano, I know you’re reading this stop attacking your fellow christian… If you’re a man of christ, you should learn how to have faith on other people… turn your other cheek, if they slap you… is religion a war to you? And for who? and for what?
believe it or not but there is a spiritual war going on and mr.soriano is like a soldier protecting guarding those who are precious to him-the people. but his war is not of the physical one but of spiritual in nature. he protects us from the evil of false doctrines and beliefs. he doesnt wants us to be misled by false preachers of that i am sure. that is why you see him attacking others because they are teaching the wrong doctrines. he do not attack out of hatred for the person but attacks the wrong teaching they teach.
i hope you will be enlightened mr.oyaak-wayuk
It can never happen again… thank you br.Eli
I pray that you will have the patience to listen to others as you want others to be patient with you. LUKE 6:31- And as ye would like that man should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. To say that somebody is ‘stupid’ when that man is really stupid is not a personal attack nor spreading hatred, we can say it is truthfulness and not flattery nor hipocrisy. Yes religion is a war, not in flesh and blood though, EPHESIANS 6:12 – For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness, against spiritual wickedness in high places. You have your own preconcieve of faith and belief and thats it, you have that arrogant belief that you are right, are you not egoistic oyaak-wayuk? There is a verse for that, JEREMIAS 9:23 – Thus saith the LORD, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches: I wish you are no one of those mentioned in this verses. I would not dare glorify my humble scientific mind as I always consider myself inadequate as compared to the Most Intelligent, Most Practical, Most Logical, and Most Scientific Preacher of our time, Bro Eli. His answers and explanation about Jonah being swallowed by a big fish is very much scientific and logical for rational people, even to non-believers. Come and go on blogging with Bro Eli, and you might be lucky to turn arround and finally see the LIGHT and the TRUTH being preached by Bro Eli. ALL GLORY AND HONORS IS YOURS ALMIGHTY GOD.
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This part of the Bible is already selfishly interpreted by another false prophet – in the name of RAEL – leader of Raelian Movement. He said that supercreators just waited Jonah to fall and welcomed him inside the Submarine. Funny!
I consider myself a man of God. I go to church . I believe in Christ. But the Jonah story doesn’t make sense. Neither does the flood story. I believe that what WE have is an extreme exageration. ONE; noah’s boat wouldn’t be big enough to hold two of every animal on earth. TWO; how would he be able to round up the earth’s animals? THREE; scientifically, if the WORLD was flooded the air pressure would crush you and the water vapors would drown you. ALSO we don’t have enough water to cover all of earth.
But this beef is with Jonah. Why would a herbivourous fish eat a man. How could a herbivourous fish grow large enough to eat a man? The acid in the stomach would still be strong enough to burn him.
IMO, the Bible has to many holes. and if someone DARE says ‘OMG! God can bend the laws of science!’ asked yourself this: When was the last time he defied the laws of physics, spoke through a burning bush, or anything like that? Never? We base our reality on perhaps flawed translations of translations of translations of translations of translations ect. of thousands of years old text that may have been exagerrated, as written language is ‘new’. Believing the bile 100% is like believing the Odyssey 100%.
I smell something fishy. What a great topic!!!
Proverbs 17:1 Better is a dry morsel with quiet than a house full of feasting with strife.
Wow, is really all that I can say. Oh, I have something!
1. What about air? Since fish only filter water through their gills and remove O2 from the water, there could not be any chance of air inside the fish. Unless…. the fish jumps out of the water and swallows air so that Jonah can breathe. Luckily we see this happening all the time. (Maybe the fish could have provided an air tank for convenience. The nerve of these fish these days….)
2. The Dunkleosteus diagram is flawed in three ways.
Powerfull –> Powerful
Envolved –> Evolved (Evolution!!!!)
Carbonian –> Carboniferous Period
3. If the fish was herbivorous, why would it swallow a person anyway?
4. Does the Bible have to be taken literally? Or could if have been written so that we might actually learn moral values from it. Is it better to try and prove something so irrational so that has absolutely not happened in modern times than to accept that it is a story? Somebody call Mythbusters!
5. If this part is true, the parts about slavery, sexism, the stoning of sinners, the unclean women (on their period must treated differently), the killing of children who disobey their parents, and the killing of anyone who works on the sabbath must all be true as well. This book cannot be flawed.
6. Is it a sin to believe in God but not believe everything the Bible says? It is not a commandment.
7. How can there be so many other religions that believe that they are the only ones who are correct and everyone else is wrong?
8. How does God allow extremist followers kill Jewish people, Palestinians, Israelis, Christians, and Muslims…… All in the name of…. God? How could that make any sense at all? They all believe in God and they all kill each other?
9. Why do other religions even exist in the first place? Has Satan really been that busy?
10. Why are there such extreme differences in how people view religion? Should there not be one absolute perfect way that no one could deny? That would make way more sense then having literally millions of different perspectives.
I have a degree in Biology and Education. I went to college and I love philosophy, science, and wondering why things are as crazy as can be.
all that aside (of which i have agreed and had my own thoughts on for years), i was surprised and concerned with the fact that a pre-prehistoric animal, a placoderm (yes a fish if you must – a VERY old fish that is classified as a placoderm because fish have evolved to become quite different. and it was evolved from something that was nothing more that a fish fillet with eyes. but i digress) , that lived up to 379,994,000 years before the God created the earth (according to creationism, which is now even in question. there are now at least six types of creationism) was around to swallow Jonah whole.
Excellent insights. I treasured to read your commentary. You have got to be putting bundle of time into your blog
what you either fail to or choose not mention, is that NO non-carnivorous fish reach that size.
yes there are huge fish, yes there are non-carnivorous fish, but there are not huge non-carnivorous fish. you blatantly mislead in the name of your “science”
laughable
Very interesting and educational. Thanks be to God.
I didn’t know my classmates said it was a big fish w/ no name so i just said that it’s a whale coz i don’t know the name ehhh….Now that i know i was shocked very much……
It is this type of nonsense that makes scientists laugh at you. ALL stomachs contain acid to digest organic molecules, you stand the same chance of living in a cow’s stomach as you do a lions (assuming they both swallowed you alive whole, and you lived through the swallowing process). And you completely fail to mention that there is no air in a fish’s stomach. I seriously can’t believe that you people are fine with being brainwashed into thinking you can live in the stomach of an animal. Wow. It must be nice to not have to think logically about anything, and just blindly nod and say “ooh, that makes total sense” when you are given an entirely invalid explanation of an event (or non-event in this case).
Religious ppl should stick with religion, at least in religion lies won’t make a difference
Bro Eli, your writing makes good reading, is it not possible that the sign of Jonah to the Nineveh’s were the acid on his body. and that perhaps the acid found on his body made them to believe his story of trying to ran away from God consequently he been swallow by a fish. if there were no acid on his body how will people of his day believe his story of been swallow by the fish?
I’m confused…are you saying that Jonah in the fish was a miracle of divine intervention, or something that would normally be plausible because of the inherit nature of human skin and fish digestion. If you want to argue that it is a divine intervention, then fine…but then to say “it’s a miracle because of this really horrible, misleading, and misinformed science” is just wrong. Basically what you are saying is that it was a lucky coincidence and you are limiting God. That’s bad science and bad theology. There really are only three options:
1. It didn’t happen and the whole thing is a story.
2. Parts of the story did happen, but other parts have been dramatized, for metaphoric or even theologic effects. (For instance, what if the “beast” wasn’t a fish, but rather an invader’s ship or something).
3. It did happen and it is a story of complete divine intervention.
The idea that it did happen and you can string together quasi science speak to “explain” how it is possible is quite frankly the WORST interpretation of Jonah possible.
absolutely. i myself feel the metaphor is the correct answer. but in any case, going for faith first, debunking science completely, then providing scientific answers and possiblities is just bad theology
HAHAHA… Oh, you are you serious? My bad.
You believe the fairytales in the bible are meant to be taken literally? Oh my. This is funny. You totally fail to see the whole picture. How about oxygen? Jonah would suffocate within hours, if not within minutes. And why the fuck would a non carnivorous, big ass fish swallow a human being in the first place? Absolutely unthinkable. That would never work. And you know why? Because it’s a story that is supposed to teach you a lesson, nothing more.
You should take this story for what it really is… a story.
Funny creationists are funny. It’s like watching a mob of squirrels with little party hats fight over a giant hazelnut that is also imaginary. Haha, lol.
Thanks for this blog. The story of Jonas has been on my mind lately. Can you focus on what jesus said swallowed Jonas? A sea monster. This include a giant Squid. I am both christian and also analytically. I had a difficult time explaining the jonas story to my peers, who are all lawyers. But Jonas story is no fairy tale. Maybe fish means sea monster. Everyone seem to be focusing on some type of fish and whale. and no one is taking the time out to research what a sea monster mean. There are pictures right now on the internet which shows what a giant squid looks like and how it hold or capture a human being, because it has 8 arms. Also, it is not uncommon for sea monsters to wash up at shore (dead). Could Jonas have been held by a giant squid, and then the giant squid washed up on shore with Jonas trapped by the squid’s arm. Could that be the belly of the fish that we are talking about? Then jonas was unconsions on a shore for 3 days and 3 night. Jesus was very specific by saying sea monster. If you look at the historical explanation of giant squid, it is very possible that Jonas was trapped by a giant squid, then he became unconscious. I wish that more christians will create blogs to help secular people get an understanding of bible stories. There is no part of the bible that is a fairy tale. What happens is that christians and secular people lack the basic bible studying forum. Maybe God will use the internet and blogging to bring that forum back to us.
I can’t believe people are still debating whether Jonas was really swallowed by a giant fish for three days.
It’s no wonder people think Christians are stupid. If you believe this, you ARE stupid.
I find it funny that it’s an Atheist telling us to shut our minds to theological and scientific debate, be it pseudoscience or not. Is science and life not a series of questions? Should we not question all of science’s findings in the very name of science?
An open minded man wouldn’t say “No Mediterranean fish could swallow a man like that.” and walk away. Only a closed minded man that doesn’t seek knowledge would do that. It is funny that these “stupid Christians” are practicing the art of debate and research. Whether or not the topic is insane, it should be debated.
There was a time when geocentrism was as incontrovertible as Al Gore’s climate change fiasco, or as unquestioned as gravity.
Did not Gallileo challenge his own Church’s geocentric model of our solar system? Was he not right? Did not everyone laugh and condemn him for it?
Come, present to us why, how, and where. After all, you are obviously the superior human for not believing in an “imaginary friend”, right?
This is your game. This is debate and open-mindedness. How about YOU open your mind and begin presenting YOUR case. This man has researched his ichtyology and has presented a hypothesis: an idea that can be tested.
Look up some fish. Go into history. Show us what you’ve got, smart guy. After all, you’re smarter than us Bible thumpers.
Yes!! Eli Soriano is the GREATEST PREACHER!! He never gets wrong 😉
HE NEVER GET’S WRONG
picture of a fish with a girl is not appropriate for this site.
The Holy Bible said that!!and i do really believed… nothing more nothing less..so let it be written,so let it be done,,,If someone really is in doubt,better ask the sensible preacher in out time,,,bro Eli Soriano….PERIOD!!!!
oh and by the way, two of my bibles do in fact say “Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah.
And Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights.
Then Jonah prayed unto the Lord his God out of the fish’s belly, and said, ‘I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the Lord, and He heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.'” Jonah 1:17 – 2:2
yes it takes us back to the comment left early on ” was he dead and cried out in death or was he dead and came back to life or was he unconcious”
what if he got to Ninevah, and was recounting his tale and said ” in a great storm at sea, i was fell overboard and the sea swallowed me as a great fish. and as i prayed the seas eventually grew calm as the storm passed. and i floated in the sea for three days and nights, tangled in seaweed even to my head. ever praying to the Lord our God. Until a passing ship saved me and brought me here to finish the purpose the Lord our God commanded me to do. yea, the Lord is good, He heard my prayers and saved me gave me the forgiveness i seeked and delivered me unto you.
doesn’t read as well as what was published does it? so we have a metaphor.
but yes it does in fact say he was swallowed and must have remained living inside a fish for three days and nights with out being digested let alone mildly burned by digestive juices. i cannot find so far one instance of any fish being a true herbivore. sure some fish eat algae and the largest sharks; whale, basking, and megamouth filter feed krill and plankton. there is no fish and certainly none large enough to swallow huge mouthfuls of kelp salad.
i thought u thanked God u were not jonah.it wasn’t easy,right?hah3 :b coz it’s easier to overcome spouse-given problems than to be in the belly of a sea monster if ever that sea monster is literal i wonder y jonah didn’t have a knife & cut the belly of the sea monster…jonah surely enjoyed his vacation there at the same time repenting.it’s not shocking how a sea monster supported jonah because he is not as corrupt as the anaconda hah3 :b fish in the bible has always been food to man.fish- snake whatever the size is opposite u ask bro eli y i just therefore conclude base on kiddie biblical stories.those who doesnt believe the story perhaps doesnt believe also about rizal&ninoy or even history!!!that’s all folks!!!let’s just thank God we r not jonah COL3:15-16ADVANCE HAPPY PBK-SEPT30,OCT1-2,2011 to all MCGI.by the way we need light on this matter so please no fight…me,i wish i’m still alive&kicking when ADDCC QUEZON CITY is brought forth…
I find your lack of faith disturbing
to Bro. E.Soriano…
I don’t have anything against you only to your exegesis to this particular blog.you’re welcome to answer this post..you based your argument on “the weeds were wrapped about my head.” you said that this instant was inside the belly of the fish and you are certain that the fish is not a carnivore type of fish.my question are as follows based on your explanation.
1.) If it’s not a carnivore fish, why did the fish swallow him?
2.) Jonah 1:17 says the Lord prepared a fish to swallow him, I don’t think God will prepare none carnivore fish to swallow a human like Jonah.
Logically, if a man intended to feed an animal with a piece of meat would he give it to a cow o a lion?sorry to say but I find your position very week in this regard.
3.) It seems that you presume that “the weeds were wrapped about my head” was a state which he is inside the belly. My question…where did you based your interpretation? in my understanding…this was before he was swallowed by the fish verse 3 says…”For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas” he didn’t mention that he is inside of the belly…but the time when he was thrown in the sea…I believe that he became unconscious or was in a similar state because he was drowning “and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me. The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about the weeds were wrapped about my head.” Sea weeds are usually floating and this indicates that Jonah was under the weeds or under the water because he also said “thy waves passed over me”…
“The belly of hell” which Jonah said cannot be understood as the “belly of the fish” . The word “hell” used was from the word SHEOL which a Hebrew word which means grave or pit…when he said this he means he was in a critical situation…he was in a state where he could die…like anyone else can feel when they are drowning…that’s why he said before this.. “I cried by reason of mine affliction” AFFLICTION means suffering…this is a figure of speech or an idiom that denotes Complicatedness of a situation….like one who is drowning and do not know what to do specially in the middle of the sea.
Whether Jonah was dead, fell asleep or he was in a state of “suspended hibernation” as you’ve said one thing is for sure he was unconscious inside the fish.
The statement Jesus said in “for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
Was not talking about Jonah’s situation inside but the occasion where he spent three days inside the fish.
I will be waiting for your swift reply Bro. Ellie…just try to understand my English I’m not as good as you.:-) God bless!
Hello jerian, thank you for dropping and commenting to Bro. Eli’s blog.
By reading comments above from naysayers, it is really hard for them to believe that this event happened – for them not at all, first because they believe not in God therefore they believe not to this scenario. Everything connected to God is unbelievable with them. (Only God can open their mind by listening to His sent messenger in this dispensation)
There are few who claimed they believe in God but does not believe on what is written in the scripture. (The scripture said God will send a messenger that will unfold mysteries and be mouth-piece of God, in latter times we will understand. And then there is Bro. Eli who speak the word of God written in the Bible, follows them and teaches them to his members no more no less.) Are they really believers or hypocrites?
We cannot understand mysteries unless we turn to His reproof.
Pro_1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
The very reason why most of the commenter hailed this blog and the author, acknowledge God for the understanding given to Bro. Eli and understand mysteries like this.
For whatever mistake I will incur in responding yours, I believe the most sensible preacher will be there to correct me. I assumed you believed in God, Jerian.
1. If it’s not a carnivore fish, why did the fish swallow him? — God told the great fish to do so.
2. Jonah 1:17 says the Lord prepared a fish to swallow him, I don’t think God will prepare none carnivore fish to swallow a human like Jonah. —- God already did to protect Jonas.
2.1 Logically, if a man intended to feed an animal with a piece of meat would he give it to a cow o a lion?sorry to say but I find your position very week in this regard. —God will not feed the fish. He is there to bring Jonas to Ninive.
3.It seems that you presume that “the weeds were wrapped about my head” was……. —– Please read verse 1.
Jon 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish’s belly,
Its already written there that Jonas’ prayed out of the fish’s belly, stay there and you will not be lost.
4. The statement Jesus said in “for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Was not talking about Jonah’s situation inside but the occasion where he spent three days inside the fish. —– Is not this a comparison? Lord Jesus Christ is comparing himself to Jonas’ situation in fish’ belly.
Better listen more to Bro. Eli and do not interpret the scripture by your own. As I have said, God sent a messenger to do this task, we only need to do is to listen and follow. I remember yesterday in Bible Exposition, God gives spirit of discernment to all Christians, it mean we can discern who speak of God and who speak of himself.
(The scripture said God will send a messenger that will unfold mysteries and be mouth-piece of God, in latter times we will understand. And then there is Bro. Eli who speak the word of God written in the Bible, follows them and teaches them to his members no more no less)
> where in the scripture?can you please direct me there…
-God told the great fish to do so
> where in the scripture? I want to clarify that I do believe this scenario occurred I just don’t agree with your exegesis….I don’t think it’s scholarly studied…rather careless just trying to prove the he’s (soriano) is wiser than anyone else….The bible stated that The Holy Ghost will guide us to the whole truth…the Holy Ghost will help us decode the scriptures…I need logical answer….again Jonah 1:17 says the Lord prepared a fish to swallow him…if you are God and you want to prepare a fish to swallow a man would your prepare a blue whale? Or a large white shark?please answer.
-God already did to protect Jonas.
> he did protected Jonas by I just cannot agree that it was a none carnivore fish.
-God will not feed the fish. He is there to bring Jonas to Ninive.
>I guess you’re too literal on that…when I said “feed” I mean “sinubuan” or “sinubo” haaaaayyy……Jonah was actually in the belly..I don’t think that he was just swallowed…can you analyze your answer?
-God will not feed the fish. He is there to bring Jonas to Ninive.
> I guess you cannot escape this…chapter 2:1 is right after he was swallowed…my argument is… “the weeds were wrapped about my head” is BEFORE and when he was still conscious this scene was obviously speaking of someone drowning in the middle of the sea…I believe that Jonah was unconscious in the belly of the fish…you’re the one lost..you’ll see just keep on following my post…:-)
-Is not this a comparison? Lord Jesus Christ is comparing himself to Jonas’ situation in fish’ belly.
>this is hilarious…comparison is different from parallelism…Jesus was not comparing…but he was just telling the “likeness” “correspondence” or parallel event when Jonah stayed three days in the belly of the fish that’s how long Jesus will also stay in the belly of the earth…
I already listened to Esoriano many times and watched many of his videos not only him many religious leaders I already studied….and soriano is funny…I observe him and the way he exegetic passages..nothing compelling…baka sya pa turuan ko 🙂
Carnivorous fish bites its prey while Herbivorous fish (grazers) often lack jaw teeth, but have tooth-like grinding mills in their throats, called pharyngeal teeth. Fish would suffocate if they tried to chew, for chewing would interfere with the passage of water over the gills, necessary for obtaining oxygen. (ref. :http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0854907.html).
It is possible that the great fish accidentally swallowed Jonas because it was passing in the same area where Jonas was thrown with its mouth open. That and a lot of other possibilities of how God prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah (Jon 1:17).
Jon 2:1-5 is not chronological as you were trying to point out, as you can see, it was a narrative of Jonas’ prayer. Jon. 2:1 is of course the continuation of Jon.1:17, that after three days and three nights, Jonas prayed unto the Lord out of the fish’s belly (mula sa tiyan ng isda). Then Jon 2:2-9 is the complete prayer of Jonas, before the fish vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
Okay?
Are you serious?? the dunkleousteus is a primitve fish that live 380-360 million years ago, the book of jonah was only written around 700BC !
Hello Laxus,
Is there any problem on that? In your surprising statement it seems you presumed that the dunkleousteus is the one swallowed Jonas. Please have time to read the blog again. And if you have more time, please read the other blogs as well. Thank you for dorpping and commenting of Bro. Eli’s blog.
Laxus,
The “Dunkleousteus” and its relatives that are no longer alive today are just one of the EXAMPLES of non-carnivorous fish, that’s why it was mentioned in this blog.
The book of Jonah did not mention the name of the sea monster because Jonah was not a scientist to know the names of all sea creatures, He is a prophet, all he know about the sea creature who swallowed him as he described it was monstrous may be in shape, size, color or appearance, and he was serious about it.
In response to jerian (sept 6):
Thanks for your comments.
1. You said you believed that such scenario occurred but not by non-carnivorous fish.
If Jonas is swallowed by non-carnivorous fish to remain UNDIGESTED (because scientifically, carnivorous fish has digestive enzymes that will kill him), I see no problem on that. Its both Biblical and Scientific and logical. Bro. Eli already told us carnivorous fish has digestive enzymes for protein (like Jonas). And God is logical to send that fish.
What’ s the difference on word “feed” as ‘isinubo’ from ‘ipapakain’? Isn’t that you were prompting, a man will feed a piece of meat not to cow but to a lion? That’s why I said the fish is not there to eat Jonas (as a food). That’s why God chose a non-carnivorous fish to swallow him.
If you still think that is must be a carnivorous fish, why not tell us your thought so that we can weight?
2. Isn’t it possible that the weeds that wrapped from Jonas head is the weeds in the fish’ belly? Since the fish is non-carnivorous, weeds are his food. Isn’t it possible Jonas is still conscious in inside the belly for little time before totally unconscious? I believe it is more logical to think than Jonas is drowning as your interpretation. Bro. Eli’s point is more convincing – he is the messenger that is why.
3. That was a shallow interpretation if the verse is only regarding the number of days (3 days & 3 nights), – well, the Holy Spirit declared it to Bro. Eli already – the meaning of that verse and was told to us that it was also the situation of Jonas as unconscious so as our Lord Jesus Christ. (Comparison – the considering of two things with regard to some characteristic that is common to both. What is hilarious on that?)
This is earned by those who interpreted the Bible by themselves – KAHAMBUGAN. They never believe that someone is sent to teach those written in the Scripture. They said they believe in the Bible, but the real thing is they not. I hope Jerian is not yet fully belonged to these kind of people.
The messenger that sent by God is:
Luk 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Do you have in mind a person who can resist Bro. Eli is saying? It easy to say “baka pa siya turuan ko” but we need here is proof if you really can. By following your posts, try harder, listen more and leave your pride, maybe the Holy Spirit will give you understanding.
ok..I will no longer respond to this blog because the admin deleted my last response…you people are really one-sided when you found someone who can actually refute your so called messenger you immediately reject them. this is no surprise to me….I have refuted so many self-proclaimed apostles, messengers etc…and they all did the same….anyway..I just pray that May God direct all your path to the true Gospel and subjected yourselves to His plan of salvation.God bless you all!
@whit
is eli S. a scientist?LOL!
Jerian,
We are taught by Bro. Eli to respect all people as written in 1 Peter 2:17. If we are one-sided, do you think you will read comments from non-members or detractors of Bro. Eli? Even non-sense or irrelevant comments were posted here. You maybe talking other blogsites, but not this. Yes you may refute everything in here but you cannot prove that you are right. We all know what you got there.
Actually we encourage them to listen more and to study with us the teaching of the Lord Jesus, we reject them not, you bark the wrong tree. But of course we cannot please everyone, they have their own belief. We respect people to believe but not their belief.
Bro. Eli already taught us where is the path that will lead us to salvation, the old path. It is you whom we would like to wish to be enlighted and be open-minded, do not be so hard to accept the truth.
is eli S. a scientist? — He is more than a scientist to me Jerian. The only preacher you can ask about everything, and have answers. I thank God for that.