Marshall Brain’s (author of whywontgodhealamputees.com) allegation that the Bible is full of anti-scientific nonsense is completely baseless and stupid.But we must not be surprised to find people like him who do not only doubt but, are denying the truth written in the Holy Book. The Bible tells us so.
(Matthew 19:11)“But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.”
Even the knowledge and understanding of the mysteries in the Bible is not attainable by human efforts but, is given by God.
(Mark 4:11-12)“And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”
Because no human intelligence can fathom the deep things of God, there are those like Marshall Brain that pervert or wrestle the word of God.
(2 Peter 3:16-17)“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.”
No wonder, people like Brain are trying all possible nonsense to malign the Bible and its source:God Almighty.
(Galatians 1:7)“Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ”
The Bible is a sealed book; and can only be understood by divine intervention.
(Luke 24:45)“Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the Scriptures…”
But what kind of people are those who will not (in any manner) understand the Scriptures?
The Bible calls them wicked.
(Daniel 12:9-10)“And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.”
Who are the wise that will understand? Hosea 14:9 says:
“Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.”
The wise, the prudent, and the just will understand.No wonder anybody alleging that the Bible is full of anti-scientific nonsense is not just prudent and wise. Let us prove this.
Brain alleged that the Bible was written by primitive people who have no knowledge of science at all.Thanks for his ignorance of the kind of people who wrote the Bible.If the Bible was not divinely inspired, how can primitive people write scientific facts long before they were understood by modern science?David knew and wrote that stars and other heavenly bodies wax old and will vanish away.
(Psalms 102:25-26)“Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed…”
The presence of black holes in the vast space of the universe which, according to science, are remains of a star that collapsed, proves the scientific precision of what was written by David about 3,000 years ago. http://www.eclipse.net/~cmmiller/BH/blkbh.html
The scientific fact that the earth is hanging on an empty space in the universe is a divine information and a scientific truth that was written by a ‘primitive’ man many thousands of years ago.
(Job 26:7)“He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”
The recent findings of modern scientists, that human beings are not to be considered herbivore or omnivore, but frugivore, proves another scientific fact written by Moses in the book of Genesis many millennia ago.
(Genesis 2:16)“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat…”
There are people even scientists that believe that humans evolve from apes and other lower forms of life.They claim that evolution is guided by two important factors:Natural Selection and Survival of the fittest.If it is true that we evolve from apes, then we should have developed, by natural selection, enzymes for the digestion of cellulose like those that are very much present in apes and other herbivores; But until now, science can attest to the fact that human beings do not posses in his digestive system, the enzyme called cellulase that digest the cellulose in plants.
Saliva pH Varies Widely Among Species
The saliva pH of various species is another determinant of their natural diet.In carnivores, their saliva glands are small and secrete an acid saliva having little or no effect on starch, which makes sense since flesh is virtually starch-free. Omnivores (like pigs) have tremendous salivary glands that secrete copious quantities of starch-splitting enzymes. Humans only have one starch-splitting enzyme, versus a multitude of them in omnivores and other natural starch-eating animals. Our ptyalin is very limited. This rules us out as being true granivores (starch-eaters) which includes grains and cereals. Frugivores have salivary glands that secrete alkaline saliva, containing only moderate amounts of ptyalin, which initiates starch digestion.This tells us that humans and other frugivores can easily digest the small amount of starch contained in fresh fruits, nuts, and leafy greens, and that humans are not intended to subsist on a diet of highly starchy grain foods as many currently do.(Diabetes mellitus is largely the result of consuming large amounts of refined sugars and starches. Even eating predominantly of whole grains and natural legumes as dietary staples can be injurious because of the need for excessive starch digestion).(http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm)
Another striking truth is that, although humanity has, for thousands of years,been consuming grains and starchy foods, his system has not developed the right enzyme necessary to break down or digest starches in raw grains and cereals.If evolution is true, as other anti-Bible scientists believe, mankind (in its long history) consuming such food stuffs must have developed the necessary digestive enzymes needed for the proper assimilation of this foods in their raw states. The fact that the human body has all the enzymes necessary to digest all nutrients in a fruit (especially its sugar content that is food for the brain), proves that we are frugivore; and proves the scientific excellence and knowledge in the Bible written by supposedly primitive men.
In summary, meat is not a suitable item of diet for humans for the following physiological reasons:
1. Flesh eating animals have a short intestine and bowel enabling them to rapidly expel the putrefactive flesh, while humans have a long, complicated alimentary canal which enables plant nutrients to be slowly absorbed and assimilated;
2. Flesh eaters have a different type of intestinal bacterial flora than non-meat eaters (including humans);
3. Flesh eaters have long sharp teeth, whereas humans have the teeth of frugivores; 4. Humans can grind their jaw, but flesh-eaters cannot: their jaws move vertically only;
5. Humans sweat through their skin (as do other non meat-eaters such as horses, cows, monkeys, antelopes etc.) whereas flesh-eaters sweat through their tongues;
6. Humans suck their liquids, whereas carnivores lap their liquids;
7. Human saliva contains ptyalin (to commence starch digestion), whereas flesh-eaters have no ptyalin;
8. Flesh-eaters secrete 10 times the quantity of hydrochloric acid in to the stomach than does a human (at a concentration much greater as well). This enables carnivores to cope with ingested bone, flesh, feathers, sinews, etc. True meat-eaters take nourishment from practically the whole prey not just muscle and selected organ meat as do humans;
9. Carnivores have large livers to aid in detoxifying the blood, and to generate massive bile secretion, but humans have a comparatively smaller liver.
10. Carnivores generate the enzyme uricase to metabolize uric acid, a naturally occurring waste product in meat. Humans do not generate nor metabolize uricase. As a result, uric acid is absorbed, which leads to age-related disease. When humans started eating meat they did not over a period of thousands of years, develop fangs, claws, the ability to secrete uricase, or the concentrated hydrochloric acid solution which characterizes true carnivores. You need but examine the Eskimos who, perhaps, have eaten meat the longest to confirm this. Species adapt very slowly to changed environmental conditions. (http://www.iol.ie/~creature/BiologicalAdaptations.htm)
Another top of the line scientific knowledge written by supposedly primitive men that highlights the scientific supremacy of the Bible is written in 1 Corinthians 15:39.
“All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.”
The apostle Paul has no knowledge at all of the DNA or the genes in any living flesh.When he wrote that human flesh is different from animal flesh, he is writing scientific information that will only be understood by humanity through the science of genealogy.
Genealogy is a new branch of science that studies the genes and the DNA of living organisms.It is wonderful to know that although, physically, there seems to be no difference at all between a human and an animal flesh, but by the study of the DNA in humans and that of animals, science was able to determine the exact difference of the two — proving that the Bible is a no-nonsense and is not an anti-scientific book.
The recent study of human DNA can trace where on earth civilization has started.The fact discovered by DNA scientists has established the trail from where global population originated: and it points to where, according to the Bible, Adam and Eve first lived.
There are hundreds of modern scientific informations written in this supposedly primitive book which we can not tackle and finish on one posting; but I believe that anybody with ‘brains’ can perceive and see the glaring truth that the Bible has in its pages.I pray to God that their brains be fed by sugars from a fruit and not the protein from an animal, which is the delight of carnivorous people.
Sincerely in Christ,
EFS
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how about that Mr. Brain (less)?
hope this article will enlighten you
Believe in what bro Eli is saying before its too late
after all, all your allegations just came from you wild imagination, while bro Eli… ALL ARE WRITTEN in the BIBLE… defending the truth
to God be the Glory!!!
WOW!… The wisdom that is in Bro. Eli never fails to amaze me!… Thanks be to GOD. To GOD be the glory!
Brother Eli once again has gotten it wrong.
“He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing” is proof of black holes? Huh? If the Bible said something about the region of space caused by the death of a star where light cannot escape, then that would be something. Notice that the concept of space, star, and light are already well understood during Biblical times.
Also, the Bible got it wrong as well—the earth is actually not hanging. In fact it is moving together with all other objects as part of the remnants of the Big Bang. If the Bible said that as well, that it was moving together with the celestial objects, then maybe we will have something there.
And he disproves the theory of evolution because of the lack of an enzyme that is found in apes but not found in humans? I suggest he do more research. Humans (Homo Sapiens) are actually part of the biological family Hominidae, or “the great apes”, which also chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans. This means that humans did not evolve from chimps, gorillas, and orangutans but instead they share a common ancestor.
People should learn not to use the Bible as a science book. Otherwise people will say that the universe was created in 6 days.
If one sees the writings in the Bible, the teachings are so vague that it is practically useless scientifically. Where did it talk about the actual circumference of the earth? Or the exact computation of Pi? Or any predictions or equations on germ theory, gene theory, nuclear energy, global warming, quantum mechanics, relativity, internet, and so on and so forth?
see the book
holy science
written by indian Yogi
on Bible
THE HOLY SCIENCE
it is amazing
to sekularista:
as if you know something in fact you know nothing….
where are you getting this understanding? You even do not know your references.. YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE INTELLIGENT BUT YOU ARE NOT..
Mark 4:11-12) “And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”
Psalm 14:1 “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’”
Whew! u know bro. ely after reading this? i dont know where to place every wisdom that u unveiled in this article, overflowing here in my heart dont know where to put some of it….i think i need some extra vessel to quantify all that…very impressing! it seems like a puzzle that had been solved…c “,) tolits Rodrigo..(locale of Bagumbayan)
to sekularista:
please read the paragraph before Job 26:7:
The scientific fact that the earth is hanging on an empty space in the universe is a divine information and a scientific truth that was written by a ‘primitive’ man many thousands of years ago.
(Job 26:7) “He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”
you are the one who got it wrong.. he did not quote Job 26:7 to explain the existence of black holes.. he actually wrote that it was in David’s writings..
and the one you wrote about family Huminidae..
i just want to remind you that the classification of animals, which unfortunately, was also used for humans was made and developed by humans.. was started by Carolus Linnaeus..! and about that common ancestor? where is that “missing link”? they have not found it yet, have they?!
the whole idea that humans share a common ancestor with apes is based on the existence of such a THEORIZED common ancestor..
“If one sees the writings in the Bible, the teachings are so vague that it is practically useless scientifically. Where did it talk about the actual circumference of the earth? Or the exact computation of Pi? Or any predictions or equations on germ theory, gene theory, nuclear energy, global warming, quantum mechanics, relativity, internet, and so on and so forth?”
dear, would you ever think like this if your ancestor is a being without a nucleus and mitochondria, and came from such a thing they call as “primordial soup”? it’s like believing in spontaneous generation! the whole theory of evolution is based in this..!
i should know, i’m a biologist..
and almost all my professors in college believed there is a GOD and believed in the Bible
and I did not study in a denominational school.. !
and please do not make a lot of conclusions unless you have actually read and researched the whole Bible.. you’ll only embarrass yourself
I’ll pick up where Sekularista has fallen off…only because his original post was such a long time ago.
We need to bury this whole idea of a “missing link.” That is a very common and blatant misconception that seems to rear its ugly head often amongst the lay society.
More often, “missing link” refers to something intermediate between apes and humans: either apes with some human features, or humans with primitive features. These could be either direct human ancestors, or just more closely related to us than to modern apes. (None of these creatures would be the “common ancestor” of apes and humans; they would have lived after it.)
If evolution occurred, there would have been many “missing links” fitting this definition, and, sure enough, many of them have been found. We call these finds “transitional fossils” and considering the rarity of just ONE find, we actually have quite the stockpile. For example just visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils for a pretty comprehensive list of the transitional fossils we currently have on hand.
@Zoofreak
I hope for the sake of the education system here in the Philippines that you are not a biologist. I’m not too worried though, because based on your statements above I am very confident that you are not a graduate of Biology…let alone any of the sciences.
to Sekularista and Co:
I hope that atheists would open their minds and their hearts…think beyond what you see and what you hear and what you touch…do you really believe that after one dies, that’s it and nothing more?…is life really that pointless?
I don’t think so. And you know why? Because Bro. Eli has taught me that the Bible doesn’t think so either. That, and more, is what Bro. Eli has been preaching for more than 4 decades.
Let me relay to you a challenge that Bro. Eli has issued for everyone:
State any good deed, or thought, or anything good and Bro. Eli will read it to you straight from the Bible.
And as we go along you will prove to yourself that every good is written in the Bible.
And that proves that the Bible is no ordinary book. It has been inspired by the origin of all good things:
GOD ALMIGHTY.
got the challenge?
well then…
BRING IT!
There is no evidence that anything happens to you after you die, except decomposition. I know you are going to go “on and on” about a soul transcending our physical body and that the bible supports this, but all that does is lead us into a discussion that will immediately show the circular nature of that argument.
Even with that being said, this does not mean that life has to be “pointless.” WE give value to our lives; we don’t need religion to afford us this right. If you’re willing to abandon those few things that sets us apart from other living things like reason, logic and consciousness to the abyss of religion…well then nothing more I can say will ever convince you and you have my condolences.
And let me accept your aforementioned challenge. You stated this:
[“State any good deed, or thought, or anything good and Bro. Eli will read it to you straight from the Bible.”]
Good deed #1 – NOT drowning every single person on the face of the planet with the exception of a drunk and his family.
to sekularista,
You’re commenting something that bro. Eli didn’t write.
Bro. Eli didn’t say ” empty place in the north ” is a proof of black hole. He only mentioned “black hole” because he said that it was a remnant of a dead star according to science. The issue here is about stars that are waxing old. The verse psalm 102:25-26 tell about stars are getting old. They are not permanent. And this is amazing because this was written before mankind develop hubble telescope.
Another thing, even the Earth is moving together with other objects as you reiterated but the Earth still hangs on nothing! you don’t discount anything here that has been explained.
For your information bro. Eli is not using the bible as a science book. The bible contains science! You err too much.
What do you know about a day in the Lord if God made the universe in 6 days?
It is just right when you call yourself “secular” because you only know about this world.
“God sitteth upon the circle of the Earth”. This is the verse that you been asking for. I won’t tell it to you. Find it! And you were looking for the word “pi”. Can’t you see. It’s in there. Study it! ssD
Spot comment, indeed the Bible speaks for itself no wonder these fools (based on Psalms 53:1) can never get the idea and about the theories stated by Devon, the so-called missing links may be similar but you do get the point they are not the same to human beings and there are certain differences like the anatomy and the enzymes used on apes and to these so-called missing links that your saying in which I believe you would like to affiliate yourself as your ancestor(be my guest, but I’ll never accept such). As it was written in I Cor. 15:39 the difference makes all the difference. In science, the heart of a gorilla is not compatible to a human given that the apes are our “ancestors” and its DNA is almost as identical as a human DNA. Ye do err in your vain attempts to disprove the Holy Scriptures. The book explains for itself and if you doubt the stated research finding, here is the link: http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/apes.html
On top of that here is a more comprehensive article with basis on actual research from the past:
http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=1038
I am saddened of what you believe, it puts a big word known as STUPID on your foreheads.
EY! SEKULRISTA, GIVE US THE PROOF OF THAT MISSING LINK!
LETS BASE OUR ARGUMENTS ON FACTS, REMEMBER?
AND WHAT CAUSED THE BIG BANG EXPLOSION?
IF SOMETHING EXPLODED, WHERE DID THAT SOMETHING CAME FROM?
ENLIGHTEN ME WITH YOUR SO CALLED CRITICAL MIND,PLS…
AND COULD YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE PRODUCT OF AN EXPLOSION THAT TURNED OUT TO BE SO BEAUTIFUL AND SO PRECISELY ARRANGED SO YOUR BIG BANG THEORY OF YOUR’S WILL HAVE A LITTLE ROOM FOR “LOGIC”.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR HOPELESS SEARCH!
Bro Eli said:
“All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.”
The apostle Paul has no knowledge at all of the DNA or the genes in any living flesh. When he wrote that human flesh is different from animal flesh, he is writing scientific information that will only be understood by humanity through the science of genealogy.but by the study of the DNA in humans and that of animals, science was able to determine the exact difference of the two
what paul was saying was not a scientific information, he was just stating the obvious. in fact it’s wrong to say, that only humans and animals have different DNA and genes when
only identical twins share 100% of their DNA. all humans except twins have different DNA and genes and is not even stated in the bible.
to sekularista,
i just hope and pray that someday, you will be enlightened as to what bro. eli is teaching you through his blogs… Just keep on reading…. who knows… you might understand and believe…
To Sekularista:
You said:
“People should learn not to use the Bible as a science book. Otherwise people will say that the universe was created in 6 DAYS. ”
The 6 days mentioned in the account of creation isn’t a 24 hour period. Why?
Please note: Gen 1:13-16
Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the THIRD DAY
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:16 And God made TWO GREAT LIGHTS; the GREATER LIGHT to rule the DAY, and the LESSER LIGHT to RULE the night: he made the stars also.
What do you think the two great lights are huh? Come on…don’t be pretentious you know it pertains to the Sun and the Moon.
Greater Light+Rules Day = Sun
Lesser Light+Rules Night= Moon
So what does this mean? The lights were made on the 3RD day. So the term ‘day’ in this part doesn’t talk about the 24 hour cycle because the very Sun and Moon that exchanges in the 24 hour day cycle were CREATED in one of those days mentioned in the account of creation.
You missed that when you were reading it didn’t you?
I’m not surprised, you’re a blinded reader of the Scriptures:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath BLINDED the minds of them which BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
An advice next time before you attack a certain statement from Bro. Eli or the Bible make sure you understand it first.
Just because you don’t understand it, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
Yet another point for the believers 😉
TO GOD BE THE GLORY
Hey sekularista! Peace be with U!!!
“though it is true that everybody is entitlled to his own opinion” but the verdict still lies in the heart and in the hands of all visitors of this blog!
So let me clear this one thing….i know u have your own beliefs and br. eli too have had his own beliefs, this is a MATTER of comparison; w/c one is true and w/c 1 is false…U base ur beliefs accrdg. to science or knowledge of men!..but br. Eli base his beliefs accrdg. to the bible or God’s wisdom! (it seems like comparing macro to micro; atom to universe!)and from it we can easily fathom whose telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth!!!! NO OFFENSEMENT hoping we meet half-way!!no need for further explanation just let the people out there be the jurists!!! it really up to them.
Ok God bless and may God and creator of this universe enlighten YOU!!! (“,)TOLITS Rodrigo
thank God for Bro Eli, he is here to help us spirituallyand mentally. keep up the good work with God’s grace
Absolutely! “It is meant for those to whom it is given.” It was Never, never had been, given, ‘the scripture’, for those who pervert it rather they are meant to come as prophesied being against the Bible and so it thus fulfilling the prophecy!
Scripture:
“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of GOD spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:20,21 King James Version
What a pure realistic Biblical lies as it was prophesied to come!
And it did, in the persona of marshall brain, who have the brain of unBiblical but Biblically a man not of godly standard and understand not the things of GOD in CHRIST.
Romans 10:14; John 7:17; 1 John 4:1; Matthew 19:11
Scripture:
“……., save they to whom it is given.”
Matthew 19:11 King James Version
More Power to you brother Eli
GOD Bless in CHRIST
this is a very well explained article. only those who opposes this are the ones who doesn’t understand. i hope God will touch your hearts and your minds so you will have the correct understanding of the truth. God bless us!
To God be the Glory!
Another proof shown how God loves His people…
Hoping that more people will get to know how true, good and exact the scripture is and how God equips His people with understanding!
Bro. Eli we miss you!
(Locale of Bagumbayan – South District Metro Manila)
I believe in God and also in evolution as well. The Bible is not a science book, but a book of redemption. Genesis is not meant to be a scientific treatise, but to describe a spiritual hierarchy that points to mankind.
One more thing, in one show in National Geographic, there is one specie of baboons that have a pair of large fangs for males but their diet is vegetarian. Their teeth are used to fight other males for control over their harem.
Ergo, I think it’s pretty awkward to judge a specimen’s diet by tooth sizes and appearances alone. What is more awkward though is to declare that evolution is false by such little information alone. I went to that website and the author mentioned that many of the Great Apes are frugigarians as well.
To Mr Sekularista:
Dude! read keenly before you read! (darn it!)
To Whazaat:
The Bible is not a science book, but a book of redemption.
err… where did Bro Eli said that The bible is a science bok?
what Bro Eli said, is:
“Bible is a no-nonsense and is not an anti-scientific book. ”
read. again.
That statement is not a direct attack towards him, fyi, but I was pointing out that the diet example he cited is hardly an evidence against evolution. In fact, if he read closely, primates such as chimpanzees are also frugigarians, and evolutionary speaking, they are our biological “cousins” from our primary ancestors, the great apes.
Whazzat, I know there are primates that are eating meals similar to that of Us. But I have one question, if apes were our ancestors, why some humans look like horses? Because I met one and he’s my friend back in the Philippines. I also have another question. If the idea of evolution is right, the apes should have been already extinct in our world, right. Besides, we are gods, not primates (John 10:34-35, Psalm 82:6-7). And GOD is the GOD of the gods. POWER TO THE CHILDREN OF GOD! PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS!!!!!
I wish that whazzat will fix his mind into believing in GOD and drop this crap of evolution which up to now remains only a theory. As to brain and sekularista, lets give them a chance if still okay. Maybe this is the first time that you heard Bro Eli, Go ahead, stick to this blog and you will find out the differrence of what the ‘fake’ men of GOD from the ‘fake’ Christian churches are talking about. Compare them with the straightforward, logical, honest, and biblical TRUTH as discussed by Bro Eli. Your reasoning about the truth, the logic, and what you claimed are contradictions are only proofs of how shallow are your understanding. Sorry to tell you the truth, but humbly,even with my two engineering courses from MIT, a post graduate course on Applied Geodesy and Photogrammetry from UP, a Masters degree and several trainings abroad and in the Philippines, I bow my intelligence, pride, and understanding to GOD, the BIBLE, and Bro Eli. I had the fortune of reading several books, many current and old scientific findings, but they dont sum up to even a very small fraction of GOD’s WORDS in the bible. The prophesies, and predictions in the bible are clearly visible, except to those whom GOD has destined never to understand. I will still enjoin our brethrens to pray for you and the other ‘doubting Thomases’ so that your continuous interaction with Bro Eli will led you to the TRUTH. GOD bless you more Bro Eli, Bro Daniel and all the ministers, workers, and members of the CHURCH OF GOD International. WE PRAISE YOU, WE GLORIFY YOU ALMIGHTY GOD FOREVER AND EVER.
Poor Marshall Brain’s.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalms 14:1
King James Version
I am arguing within the context of the article Bro. Ely cited. It did not go against evolution. He should have used another article instead.
[quote]Whazzat, I know there are primates that are eating meals similar to that of Us. But I have one question, if apes were our ancestors, why some humans look like horses? Because I met one and he’s my friend back in the Philippines. I also have another question. If the idea of evolution is right, the apes should have been already extinct in our world, right. Besides, we are gods, not primates (John 10:34-35, Psalm 82:6-7). And GOD is the GOD of the gods. POWER TO THE CHILDREN OF GOD! PRAISE THE LORD!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS!!!!![/quote]
No, in evolution, mutations are random and not all populations can acquire such mutations.
Your friend may look like a horse, but I’m sure he has teeth that enable him to consume both meat and vegetables. Horses aren’t capable of such. I’m sure he also has hands and feet similar to yours and to any other primate. Horses don’t have those either. You see, even if evolutionists play your game, they won’t conclude that your friend came from horses.
Btw Rhina,
For a brilliant scientist as yourself, surely you could tell the difference between a “theory” in ordinary language and a scientific theory?
Maybe this can contribute in searching reality.
If you believe in evolution…
• Where is the link between “the missing link” and humans?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Ape ? ? ? “Missing link” ? ? ? human
• The link between the lion and the sea lion?
• Why that is there are still amoebas right now? I think they were the mother of all organisms that evolved. I pity them, until now they are not evolving.
• There must be an organism right now that is evolving, just evolved and starting to evolve.
• The wings of ostrich now must be gone.
• I wish my offspring maybe billion years in the future will be having wings; they will become superman…woooh!! Exciting!
I’m just a one time visitor but alas I thought I’d put down my own views.
I have to say that after a quick read I agree with some of what Bro. Eli says, however I do have a few qualms with what he and some of the Christians here say. I also have a few qualms with what the evolutionists here say too.
For those who seem to be going on about evolution not existing, I would like to challenge that mindset (but not necessarily assume that you’re wrong) by mentioning that humans have evolved to some extent during even written history, as some of us are no longer as vulnerable to the myriad of diseases et cetera out there (I say some of us because as more recent history shows only certain populations developed counter-mechanisms against certain diseases, thus why when Europeans started colonising Australia, many of the original indigenous population became infected and badly ill and even died due to Europeans spreading viri etc which they had immunity to). Additionally due to genetic diversity, humans constantly interbreeding with each other, constant exposure to viri like AIDS et cetera many populations right now are still changing and it will never end. Sadly however survival of the fittest does to some extent exist in humanity as certain populations with less dominant genes become integrated into new ones. So I find it incredibly hard to discredit evolution theories at least to that extent.
However I do not believe that humans evolved from a common ancestor of anything not as sapient as us. Theoretically it is possible according to evolution, however my main qualms with that theory is that it would seem logical (at least to me) if a population of some primate did start to diverge, that it would still stay in contact enough with the original population to give whatever genetical variations it gained back to the original population. I guess I sit on a unique part of the fence where Christianity and Evolutionist principals combine. Meh.
Nonetheless, despite my clear and rude insertion of my point of view, I would like to thank Bro. Eli for this article, there were some things which I still didn’t know.
And @ “WOLVERINE!”: I agree haha. Seriously – I reckon the only way you can get something out of nothing is simply via the sheer fact that there is (or ‘was’ because now this fact exists) nothing. And that I guess would probably be assuming that the big bang or equivalent was caused by an intense and all knowing information-based lifeform. Which would probably = God. Although thinking about it hurts my head.
A very open minded assertion… That’s a nice start… 🙂
whazzat, you belived in GOD and evolution? where can you find that two things occupies in the same place at the same time?
You need to study very carefully about what you belive.
You belive in creation and evolution? okey which come first?
Thanks to GOD that he called me to be a member of the Church of God International.I have better understanding than to none true belivers.
To sekularista,
Your idea is belong to the second heaven only and your god is their in that second heaven.want to know why? read the Bible and listen always to Bro.Eli in Bible exposition and you know.Thanks GOD I have better understanding than you.
Marshall Brain is brainless his god is in second heaven.
his idea came from that heaven. I can say that he is fool.
all i can say is…for it was written in the bible, “none of the wicked shall understand” that is why they are saying things which they don’t really understand. thanks God we have Bro. Eli.
Amen po.:)
I think without the guidance of the holy spirit, you can’t understand what’s written in the Bible. Bro. Eli, I believe has the guidance and he uses it to spread the Good News to others for us to be save from Hell. If someone only rely his own brain to understand the teachings in the Bible, it will only lead him to confusion. Faith is the key of undertanding and knowing God eventhough He is not present to our human eye. We must believe that Jesus came to Earth and die for us. He was first exist with God the Father as the Word and born in flesh to die on the cross. Then God ressurrected Him after three days and return to Heaven and sit on the right side of our Father God. Only Faith can see everything spiritual things and understands spiritual informations. As what other people says, “I will only believe if I will see it with my own eyes”. You won’t believe also viruses and bacteria exist because you can’t see it with your naked eyes. Everything around us give proof that there is God. Everything is created by the One that we can’t see that’s why prophets where delivered to us…finally Jesus was also sent to us for us to believe to Him and to the One who gave Jesus to Us-God the Father. I thank God that Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel were sent to us by God together with the servants. “Only fools believe that there is no God” .
to those who do not believe GOD
where are you getting this understanding? You even do not know your references.. YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE INTELLIGENT BUT YOU ARE NOT..
Mark 4:11-12) “And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.”
Psalm 14:1 “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’”
the greatest discoveries in science are small part the of deep and vast wisdom in the bible.
my question to all “intelligent atheist”, If there is no God, then Law of Multiple proportion will explain that this world will not exist. Law of multiple proportion states that “two elements form more than one compound between them, then the ratios of the masses of the second element which combine with a fixed mass of the first element will be ratios of small whole numbers”. You can make different compounds using carbon and oxygen in different proportions. Earth at first, as many scientist says, elements are in the atmosphere and land and water, without control these elements will be in excess meaning there will be no carbon monoxide, but all carbon dioxide. there will be no water but all H2O2. I’m a chemist a scientist and a believer of God. Hope you consider answering my proposition. If there is a wrong grammar, I’m sorry but i am not an American.
God is the one who created this world. without Him even you (all of the atheist) will not exist. There will be no water, or even life forms.
really brother Eli is Prob.4:7