Good afternoon,
Bro. Eli, I’m a Catholic. I just would like to be enlightened on what verse(s) in the Bible can you find the place where the soul of dead people go until such time that the day of judgment comes. Is it true that if a person dies suddenly his/her soul still haunts the area where he/she died? Is it true that their souls stay here for the first 40 days after death?
Thank You Very Much.
Cherry Atienza
pieatienza@yahoo.com
Dear Cherry,
Welcome to my website!
I would be very glad to answer your question using the Bible as the basis, where the word of God is recorded. But in a corner of my mind, I feel sad and sorry for your question because I can perceive that so many Catholics like you are lost in their belief not because they are hard headed people, but because they are being deprived by their priest of the proper knowledge due them.
(Jeremiah 23:30) “Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbor.”
A teacher or a preacher must teach the entire truth of God available in the Bible for the salvation of man. The danger of being deprived of wisdom and understanding may result into destruction.
(Hosea 4:6) “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”
It is God’s commandment and an outstanding responsibility of a preacher to make known unto His people the word of God.
(Jeremiah 26:2) “Thus saith the LORD; Stand in the court of the LORD’s house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD’s house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word…”
The fact that not only a word but, an entire doctrine is not being taught you by your priests aggravates their negligence and your chances of being lost.
(Romans 11:25) “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.”
History and documents testifies to the inability of Catholics authorities to teach the truth to about a billion adherents of the Catholic Church. For so many centuries, Catholic authorities from the pope to the parish priest made people believe that there is a limbo: where souls of unbaptized children go if in any case they die.
I know you are using a computer — maybe a laptop. May I help you through your computer find the truth. You can search the entire Bible looking for the word ‘limbo’ in less than 15 seconds. Limbo is not a teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ, neither; it is apostolic, because it is not in the Bible and is an ‘invention’ of Catholic priests.
(Ecclesiastes 7:29) “Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.”
These inventions are also called in the Bible as fables.
(2 Timothy 4:3-4) “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
Millions of Catholics have died in the past believing that there is such a gory place called limbo: But now, to the surprise of the world, the present pope discarded the doctrine of limbo and threw it into the vault of oblivion in the Vatican City.
Souls of unbaptized children go to limbo and souls of grown ups go to purgatory. You must not be surprised if someday you will wake up to know that the Pope is also discarding the doctrine of purgatory, after all, it is not in the Bible, nor the idea of it.
But where do souls go after death? Will they linger for forty days near the place where they died and hunt for anything? Let us consult the word of God.
(Ecclesiastes 9:5-6) “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing that is done under the sun.”
After the death of our physical body even our memory and emotions do perish. A dead man can do nothing.
(Ecclesiastes 9:10) “Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.”
The spirit returns to God and the dust returns to dust.
(Eclessiastes 12:7) “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.”
This is so if the one who died is a godly man, his spirit will return to God, but if a man is wicked, then his spirit is imprisoned until judgment day.
(1 Peter 3:19-20) “By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.”
What about the soul? You must understand first that the soul is not the spirit and the spirit is not the soul.
(Hebrews 4:12) “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
The spirit and the soul can be divided or separated by the word of God. What is the soul then?
(Genesis 2:7) “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
The union of the flesh or dust from the ground with the breath of life is what became a living soul. Your entire being plus your emotions, memory and faculties is the soul. If someone dies the soul is in the hand of the Creator, The entire being of a man is in the hand of God after death, and will remain under God’s power until the resurrection to face judgment.
(Job 12:10) “In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.”
This gives us peace of mind for we know that the souls of our dearly departed are in the hands of God. A vision was seen by John wherein the souls of murdered Christians are asking for God’s justice, but God told them that the time of vengeance has not yet come, and said, they should rest for some more time until judgment day.
(Revelation 6:9-11) “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.”
Can there be any part of your being that will linger on earth or return to your house and stay for 40 days? None!
(Job 7:9-10) “As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. He shall return no more to his house, neither shall his place know him any more.”
The CBCP (Catholic Bishop’s Conference of the Philippines — the largest Catholic country in Asia) said that the soul of a departed relative may visit their former dwelling place and relatives, and even advised their love ones to listen to their message, in utter rejection and defiance of the Biblical teachings of God. God prohibits the living to consult the dead. It is an abomination in His sight.
(Deuteronomy 18:10-12) “Don’t sacrifice your children in the fires on your altars; and don’t let your people practice divination or look for omens or use spells or charms, and don’t let them consult the spirits of the dead. The LORD your God hates people who do these disgusting things, and that is why he is driving those nations out of the land as you advance.” Good News Bible translated with permission by Catholic authorities. The complete Bible has the imprimatur of John Francis Whealon, Archbishop of Hartford.
I want you to think about this, if there really is a purgatory, how can they visit their former dwelling place and love ones. The truth is, that they will be in God’s hands until the resurrection.
What will happen in the resurrection?
(Daniel 12:2) “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
(Ezekiel 37:4-6) “Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.”
Nobody can escape God’s judgment; the dead will be resurrected to face the judgement seat of God.
(Revelation 20:11-12) “And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.”
God Bless,
EFS
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It is of great importance to fulfill God’s purpose that’s in us while we still have life. There are not so many chances in this life thats why we must realize that we have a divine purpose why we are here
when one dies, his soul is in the hands of God, and is there to find judgement. The judgement he faces depends on how much he has loved, and in the spiritual world, he is bound to find what is most precious to him… i know it is hard to understand but if u want to know then u can see here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DRFVcKNCXI
This is a vision of what death, is which only one’s journey has to endure.
>”the present pope discarded the doctrine of limbo”
False. Limbo is not nor has it ever been a doctrine of the Catholic Church. Just because you call “Limbo” a doctrine does not make it so. You don’t get to define Catholic doctrine, Catholics do. Your post is pretty much a “straw man” or false arguement.
Also, you fail to clearly answer the question as to where souls go after death. The Bible clearly teaches that there are only two destinations after death, heaven and hell. After death, where does the soul go? To heaven or to hell? Define clearly for us your statement “The entire being of a man is in the hand of God after death,” Is “in the hand of God” a third place, a temporary place between this world and the next? If a soul does not immediately go to heaven or hell, then you seem to be making the case for a state of Limbo or Purgatory, are you not?
God bless…
Scripture:
“Seek ye out of the Book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate; for MY mouth it hath commanded, and HIS Spirit it hath gathered them.”
Isaiah 34:16 King Jmes Version
That’s a minister that has authority, with scriptural knowledge, to say about that’.
Scripture:
‘”Bleesed is he that readeth, and THEY that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein; fro the time is at hand.”
Revelation 1:3 King James Version
Hope your heart has the ability to listen and discern, what the Bible has to say.
Scripture:
“How then shall they call on HIM in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in HIM of whom they have not heard? and how how shall they hear without a preacher?”
Romans 10:14 King James Version
Listen to a preacher of the LORD GOD, sent for His ministry and you that listen shall be Blessed indeed!
Scripture:
“Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness; for thay shall be filled.”
Matthew 5:6 King James Verson
You are blessed, if realy are seeking the truth and do hunger for righteousness and thus be filled with the wisdom that is from GOD in CHRIST!
Scripture:
“If any man will do HIS will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of GOD, or whether i speak of myself.”
John 7:17 King James Version
May you continue in your hearts quest as to know about more of the truth and walk in it and thus the shall set you free!
More Power to you brother Eli
GOD Bless in CHRIST
I thank God through the Lord Jesus Christ that he led me to his servant bro. Eli in this times of the end. I won’t be able to fully understand his words that were shut up since prophet Daniel. like for example, ” mother of harlots”, “a great city”, “a woman stained with blood on her garment”, a woman dressed on a scarlet riding on a greatbeast”, and so many representations about a kind of religion that will dominate the people’s faith in this last days. It has ten kings but it has not given powers. It seems they understood the mystery of the Godhead for they tought the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit but only i found contrary to the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Many have entered into this gate because it’s wide open. Everyone is invited. No restriction provided. the lust of the flesh is the power given over anyone who wants to stay in the flock. Isn’t that decieving! If we compare the people of God to thiers, we are just few because the bible said, “norrow is the gate that go to life and few has found it”. But even though we are few our Lord Jesus promised us that thier gates shall not prevail against us. Praise unto Him who is able to keep us from falling! ssD
To Timothy,
1. You said, “False. Limbo is not nor has it ever been a doctrine of the Catholic Church. ”
Read again Bro. Eli’s statement.
“Millions of Catholics have died in the past believing that there is such a gory place called limbo: But now, to the surprise of the world, the present pope discarded the doctrine of limbo and threw it into the vault of oblivion in the Vatican City.”
I can attest to that. I was once a catholic, too. Nuns and priests in my secondary school back in Cebu taught us that in our religion classes.
You are just in denial. Most of the time, the truth really hurts. But it feels good to know.
2. You said, “Also, you fail to clearly answer the question as to where souls go after death. ”
You just didn’t get it. Read again.
3. You said, “The Bible clearly teaches that there are only two destinations after death, heaven and hell.”
If this is really true, this will contradict what John wrote;
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Many have already died before Jesus uttered these words. Yet, he said no man had ascended up to heaven.
I think maybe, you should cite a biblical verse to prove what you are saying. You know, I can also talk all day long without basis. But let us make arguements in light of the scriptures.
Who should I believe? You or John? I’d rather believe John than you!
4. You said, ” Define clearly for us your statement “The entire being of a man is in the hand of God after death,” Is “in the hand of God” a third place, a temporary place between this world and the next?”
Bro. Eli’s statement is very clear. The answer to your question is in the succeeding statement after that which you quoted.
“If someone dies the soul is in the hand of the Creator, The entire being of a man is in the hand of God after death, and will remain under God’s power until the resurrection to face judgment.”
Notice this:
…and will remail under God’s power until the resurrection to face judgement.
3. You said, “If a soul does not immediately go to heaven or hell, then you seem to be making the case for a state of Limbo or Purgatory, are you not?”
Wrong! That is impertinent!
correct. 🙂
To Dreamblazer:
The movie: “What Dreams May Come” does not show the vision of what death is.
Biblically speaking, your idea is like the Limbo of the Catholic doctrine. There is no strong basis in the bible that your statement is true.
To have a LIMBO or not it does not matter or can affect to our salvation.
But the problem is catholic church is continue consenting their members to pray their dead love ones without taking consideration of their own and what Jesus christ said;
“And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” (Matthew 7:3)
“Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?” (Matthew 7:4)
“Thou HYPOCRITE, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7:5)
EYES
greetings!
i just want to know :
if flesh + breath of life = soul or (entire being plus your emotions, memory and faculties), what is soul + spirit(Heb.4:12)?
and
when and where specifically will it happen what John saw in Rev.6:9-11?
i understand that it is before judgment day, but i’m wondering how are the souls(flesh + breath of life) of the just be alive when it is not yet the 1st ressurection?
isn’t it that the flesh of the dead returns to dust(Ecle.12:7)?
We pray for your safety and wellbeing always.
Godbless!
Very well explained Bro Eli, after all the Catholics from the very beginning has decei ved so many with their invented doctrine just to jhustify their hold on people and to continue taking others money with their stories that the money, material thingsand services are for God. As if money and materiual things are needed by God. Let us remember that through these invented doctrines, the friars and Spain has abusively ruled the Philippines for centuries, By the CONFESSION of a woman the Spaniards discovered the Katipunan. Many women were misled into offering their bodies to the Friars in the thought that they did it for God. There are many other invented doctrine that runs counter to the true words of God but the Catholic church has not discarded for their business and commercial purposes. The only solution for many who were trapped in the Catholic and other fake churces, not by their choice but by way of inheriting the wrong belief from parents, just like me and my children before we had the grace of becoming members of the MCGI, is to always spend your time in this revealing blog of Bro Eli, the blog for TRUTH and SALVATION.
I’m thinking this is wacky.
The Pope can say there is no Purgatory one monriong when he wakes up.
But when you search the Catholic Bible online there is an explanation pages long..
My mothers catholic family bible also has it in there..
I never liked that idea or Limbo for unbaptised chidlren or babies.
I also thought God was a kind loving person..
Why then does Bro Eli say God HATES.
Why would God hate anyone or anything??
..woudl he not LOVE & PRAY for us as he is a Christian / Its all interpretation man!
#3 > Timothy
would like to know if you are a roman catholic, its seems. . ? youre talking as if you were not. Try to search the roman catholic doctrines first before you say FALSE then go back to me so that i may be of help or better if you ask Bro Eli to clear up your blunder.
If your pride still holds you then go to your room… close the door and open your Bible, hope you can read..by the way if ever you dont have one GO TO EDSA (not to kill yourself) wait for the ANG DATING DAAN and UNTV BUS you can have your BIBLE FREE with matching magazine and coffee
Thanks to Bro Eli
To God be all the Glory
Limbo does not exists. This is only a fable, an invention.
Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
Ecclesiastes 7:29
King James Version
To #11 Joes wife
Hi, to comment about your question, well, it is not hard to see–if you read your Bible– that God has and feels many things. He is happy, sad, upset, and angry, etc. You are right, He is incredibly merciful and loving and his Love knows no boundaries. But when something is completely against everything that He is, then he completely disaproves of it. In the Bible we find many actions and things that he abhorrs or hates, such as the ones sited above. How can God love evil? Impossible. Also, He is not a Christian, He is Christ himself. WE are Christians because we follow Him. Also, God does not pray for us, we pray to Him. It is rather funny that you ask this because then God will be praying to himself. =) He does love every single human though, and He is sending workers to reach all of them so that one day all of us can be with Him forever. It is not his intention that anyone should perish. He wants everyone to be saved. Please find yourself a church that will fill you with knowledge so that you too can reach many more people for God’s kingdom. It is not good to be living in darkness that comes from not knowing the scriptures. God bless you.
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King James Bible
1 And the child Samuel ministered unto the LORD before Eli. And the word of the LORD was precious in those days; there was no open vision.
2 And it came to pass at that time, when Eli was laid down in his place, and his eyes began to wax dim, that he could not see; 3 And ere the lamp of God went out in the temple of the LORD, where the ark of God was, and Samuel was laid down to sleep; 4 That the LORD called Samuel: and he answered, Here am I. 5 And he ran unto Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou calledst me. And he said, I called not; lie down again. And he went and lay down. 6 And the LORD called yet again, Samuel. And Samuel arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And he answered, I called not, my son; lie down again. 7 Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD, neither was the word of the LORD yet revealed unto him. 8 And the LORD called Samuel again the third time. And he arose and went to Eli, and said, Here am I; for thou didst call me. And Eli perceived that the LORD had called the child. 9 Therefore Eli said unto Samuel, Go, lie down: and it shall be, if he call thee, that thou shalt say, Speak, LORD; for thy servant heareth. So Samuel went and lay down in his place.
10 And the LORD came, and stood, and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for thy servant heareth. 11 And the LORD said to Samuel, Behold, I will do a thing in Israel, at which both the ears of every one that heareth it shall tingle. 12 In that day I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house: when I begin, I will also make an end. 13 For I have told him that I will judge his house for ever for the iniquity which he knoweth; because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not. 14 And therefore I have sworn unto the house of Eli, that the iniquity of Eli’s house shall not be purged with sacrifice nor offering for ever.
15 And Samuel lay until the morning, and opened the doors of the house of the LORD. And Samuel feared to show Eli the vision. 16 Then Eli called Samuel, and said, Samuel, my son. And he answered, Here am I. 17 And he said, What is the thing that the LORD hath said unto thee? I pray thee hide it not from me: God do so to thee, and more also, if thou hide any thing from me of all the things that he said unto thee. 18 And Samuel told him every whit, and hid nothing from him. And he said, It is the LORD: let him do what seemeth him good.
19 And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground. 20 And all Israel from Dan even to Beersheba knew that Samuel was established to be a prophet of the LORD. 21 And the LORD appeared again in Shiloh: for the LORD revealed himself to Samuel in Shiloh by the word of the LORD.
Hello Bro. Eli!
Bro. Eli, sorry but Limbo is not a Catholic doctrine. It’s just an idea of St. Thomas. Catholic doctrines are can be seed on the Dogma. Limbo is not a Dogma.
Sorry Bro. Eli but the Dogmas cannot be removed because the Dogma is already completed. It’s up to the Pope if he wants to add, but he can subtract!
I think you have a point, why not face bro Eli Soriano? He always welcomed disputers. You can allegedly save a lot of people if you have guts.
Actually, dogmas are not additions. Dogmas are officially defined doctrines. The Pope cannot add nor subtract anything from what was received in Divine Revelation. He can only officially define certain doctrines to make it a dogma. Besides, before dogmas are defined, they are widely accepted as true and in line with Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. In short, ‘All dogmas are doctrines, but not all doctrines are dogmas.” Limbo was not a doctrine nor a dogma, it’s only a theological hypothesis. God bless!
No wonder no one has written on this talk back for a while. I stumbled across this dialogue and wonder who thinks this way. What religion is in their hearts, what kind of God have they created. No wonder Ghandi said I’d be a Christian tommorow if they practiced what they preached. Your doctrines are so confusing and contradictory, Our Lord must be weeping. To say people are in some state of suspended animation with God, flies in the face of your own Biblical readings, Christ said to the good thief this day you will be with Me in paradise, not in suspended animation but in paradise (Heaven, God’s Place) He went and spoke to spirits before His ressurection, where was that Disneyland…no it was a spiritual place until Jesus open the Gates of Heaven. I cannot say for sure until I die where I will be after that moment, but I doubt it will be in unconsciousness. Anyway I pray for all of you, Jesus told us what to do the two great commandments and the Sermon on the Mount. Do this and at death you will see Him and the Father And Holy Spirit.
Catholics’ authorities are now gone. Coward to face bro Eli Soriano.
Interesting to see how arguments are made from the point of view of christians. If catholic authorities are gone…it should not even have started by Peter in the first place…and furthermore the jerusalem bible that has versus carefully chosen as a universal bible has been redoned by lapsed people of the faith. Dear Ms Cherry, when we receive holy communion, we confess both the apostles creed and with the lord’s prayer as a universal prayer, we hold the catholic faith. The universal prayer that Jesus taught us is very impt…forgive these people and to lead us out of every temptation…pray the rosary. My parents and I pray and they have seen mother mary at her appearance at medjugore on the 15th aug her assumption into heaven. Go to the novena prayer is indeed impt.God bless:)
Joachim,
Thank you for commenting in Bro. Eli’s blog. If you still have time, please read the other articles pertaining catholic church. You will learn more about your church (RCC) if you will listen to Bro. Eli. Think of your soul. Thanks again.
Dear Mr. Joachim,
When you receive holy communion, you follow the literal meaning of the breaking of bread into pieces, not the spiritual and true meaning of it.
When you confess both the apostles creed and the Lord’s prayer, you’re doing ignorance because there’s no Apostle’s creed in the bible and why do you confess it and the Lord’s prayer when in fact they are prayers unless your prayers are sinful?
You don’t need to pray the rosary and the novena because Jesus taught in Mat 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.”
Roman Catholic Church taught the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. Why do you think that your mother Mary’s appearances are sensationalized in the media? because it was written in Mat 24:5 “For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
Joachim, you are deceived for a long time now. .