Prophecies are of great importance among God’s people as early as the seventh generation from the father of humankind.
(Jude 1:14-15)And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
The spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus.
(Revelation 19:10)And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
To whom a prophecy is being fulfilled, there rest the testimony of Jesus.
The first century Christians were admonished not to despise prophecies and prophesying.
(1 Thessalonians 5:20)Despise not prophesyings.
There are prophecies meant solely to be fulfilled in the nation of Israel.
(Ezekiel 34:2)Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
There are prophecies meant to have dual fulfillment: both for the Jews and the Gentiles.
(Acts 15:16-17)After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
In fact, the prophet Jeremiah was commanded to prophesy not only for Israel, but for other nations.
(Jeremiah 1:5)Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee,and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
It is understandable; therefore, that there are prophecies which fulfillment can happen in other nations of the world.
(1 Kings 8:41)Moreover concerning a stranger, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name’s sake…
(Isaiah 61:5)And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.
The Philippines (formerly called “Las Islas Filipinas” in honor of King Philip II of Spain), which is a group of Island in the Pacific Ocean, is included in Biblical prophecies.
(Isaiah 24:15)Therefore in the east give glory to the LORD; exalt the name of the LORD, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea. NIV
Giving glory or glorifying God means offering the sacrifice of thanksgiving.
(Psalms 50:23)Whoso offereth the sacrifice of thanksgiving glorifieth me; And to him that ordereth his way aright Will I show the salvation of God.
The word used ‘whoso’ or whosoever qualifies anybody that offers thanksgiving to God. A collateral prophecy from Jeremiah, a prophet for nations outside of Israel, states:
(Jeremiah 30:19-22, 24)And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.Their children also shall be as formerly, and their congregation shall be established before me, and I will punish all that oppress them.And their nobles shall be of themselves, and their governor shall proceed from the midst of them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach unto me: for who is this that engaged his heart to approach unto me? saith the LORD.And ye shall be my people, and I will be your God…
…The fierce anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it.
(Bro. Eli Soriano preaching in Araneta Coliseum, Philippines, one of the largest and more famous domes in the world, to less than 30,000 people searching for the genuine Word of God. This “Bible Exposition” was also broadcast simultaneously all over the world via internet, and through the facilities of Globecast Satellite servers.)
The possibility of this prophecy being fulfilled in the Philippines is 100 percent!Brother Eli and his group are ‘easterners’; and his group is the only congregation in the Philippines that offers the sacrifice of thanksgiving unto the God of Israel — weekly. Bro. Eli came from among the group he leads.He was never a Catholic, a Protestant, nor a member of any other religious group but the Church of God first preached in the Philippines by Brother Nicholas Perez.
In the prophecy of Jeremiah, it was emphasized that the people of God mentioned, will have a governor that will come out from among them.They are called God’s people; the time of their existence is explicitly written: The later days or the end times. A collateral prophecy was written by Daniel for the end times.
(Daniel 12:4, 9-10) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book,even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased…
…And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Bro. Eli is a nobody, but the wisdom and understanding that he has, because of his fear of the Lord, is undeniable and irrefutable:After all, the prophecy does not require a special somebody in human society to be the preacher of the true teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ.
(John 7:17)If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
The phrase ‘any man’ may apply even to the humble person of Bro. Eli.What is vital to determine is the doctrine — if it comes from God, from the Bible, or from one’s self.
He that speaks in behalf of God for His glory is sent by God.
(John 7:18)He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory:but he that seeketh his glory that sent him,the same is true,and no unrighteousness is in him.
There are those that speak of themselves — not coming from God, or from the Bible!
He that fears the Lord and doeth righteousness is acceptable unto Him.
(Acts 10:34-35) Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
The Philippines as a nation, and Brother Eliseo Soriano as a citizen of the Philippines, is a fulfillment of this prophecy.
Brother Eli, whenever he preaches, reads the Bible. Questions are answered by the Bible (See video below).
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(Jonathan Hudson of Los Angeles, California asks Brother Eliseo Soriano if God can commit sin. In return, Bro. Eli answers his question not from his own capacity, but from biblical verses that was inspired by the Holy Spirit of God)
His work and manner of preaching fits another prophecy.
(Revelation 1:3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Let us compare.
The Bible says, “Do not bow down thyself unto man-made images nor worship them.”
(Deuteronomy 5:8-9)Thou shalt not make thee any graven image,or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me…
(Acts 17:29)Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.
Leaders of the Catholic Church command their members to bow, worship, and pray to graven images.Are these leaders sent of God?
The Bible says:
(Matthew 23:9) …call no man your father upon the earth:for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Catholic leaders wanted to be called father — against the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Bible says that the law on tithing is for the Levite priests to collect among their brethren, and such priesthood was changed, therefore, the law on tithing was changed, also.But until now, leaders of Protestants and Born-Again Movements collect tithes from their members.
(Hebrews 7:5, 12)And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham…
…For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Collection in the New Testament Church is:
(1 Corinthians 16:1-2)Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
Tithing is not imposed; instead, the ‘Christian heart’ decides how much to give.
(2 Corinthians 9:7)Every man according as he purposeth in his heart,so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
And what is shocking is that the leader of the famous 700 Club, International is asking as high as 90%.
Apollo Quiboloy teaches a month of sacrifice, which is not Biblical and even, dictates the amount that a member should give.
Another foolish teaching of this false prophet is that the new Jerusalem is his native city of Davao in the Philippines (See image below), to where God, allegedly, will transfer His throne.
(He has chosen Davao City to become His New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem will become the center of the universe. God’s throne will be moved from the third heaven to this earth. — Taken from the official website of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ)
A similar foolishness came from one of the false prophets of the Americas, Joseph Smith — claiming (which never came true) that New Jerusalem will be in the State of Missouri, USA.
The Bible tells us that the New Jerusalem will come from above — from God; not from this earth.
(Revelation 21:1-2)And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
This brief insight will make everybody realize that the teachings of the Bible being preached by Brother Eli is very far from the erroneous teachings of so many so-called ‘great’ religious leaders of our times.
We will continue, God willing, to compare the erroneous teachings and practices of religious leaders of our times in the next issue of this blog.
God Bless You All.
EFS
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Anybody who reads the blog of Bro. Eli is led by the Holy Spirit because It is very important to study about this blog. This is a complete message from the Bible and so from GOD.
Friends and Brethrens, If you want to study for your salvation, just visit Bro. Eli’s Blog and you’ll never fail to find it.
GOD Bless.
It’s high time that the world realizes and discover the real tachings of Christ.. and not being fooled by so many false preachers and prophets in our time..
Thanks be to God that He sent Bro Eli for us to be enlightened and know the truth of our salvation..
The Church of God in the Bible has members in this dispensation. And they are, with God’s help and mercy, led by Bro. Eli Soriano. A man who has never backed out from any fight of faith nor has he folded amidst all persecutions and tribulations thrown by enemies of the Truth.
May God help us all in this near-impossible task of worldwide propagation!
WE CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH HIM WHO GIVES US STRENGTH!
GOD’S IS ALL GLORY AND PRAISE FOREVER. AMEN!
when we do/say anything, it should conform to the standards of the bible, just like this post, all his statements conforms the bible. amen to that.
Catholics and other religions are the same, they are different from their faith in God. The spirit of prophecy, giving glory or glorying God means offering the sacrifice of thanksgiving.
The most important is that we are the children of God.
The bible tells us that the New Jerusalem will come from above from god, not from this earth.
How CLEAR. How Clear. CLEAR.
That’s the word! CLEAR!
When you’re LISTENING, READING Bro. Eli’s preaching: the word is.. CLEAR!
Enlightening!
I’m sure it’s not only I who experiences this thing whenever I hear or read of Bro. Eli’s preaching: it’s like a ‘not literal’ LIGHT is shining to the heart. I can’t explain it!
But Bro. Eli probably CAN! 🙂
And all of these are for THE GLORY OF GOD! Amen!
Amen !!!
Truth hurts, but it brings salvation.
Amen!
There is nobody out there that can disprove the facts.
The Lord has manifested to us through His humble servant Bro. Eli (which is the governor of the Church of God in our time) the deep things of God.
I am always looking forward for the topics that are being discussed during the weekly Thanksgiving to God.
Thanks be to God!!! To God be all the glory!!!
Amen.
We have no doubt Bro. Eli that you are the preacher sent by God. You’ve shown to us your love and your care for our souls and we’re very greatful. You are always in our prayers and that’s our way of saying we love you too.
To God be the Glory
another expose for all seekers of truth…
to GOD be the glory….
and i thank GOD again for this man Brother Eli….
amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to GOD be the GLORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND THANK GOD FOR HE IS FAITHFUL TO HIS PROMISE……
……THRU HIS WORD…..OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!
AND THANK GOD FOR THE TRUTHFULNESS OF THE PROPHECY
……………REV.1:3 BLESSED IS HE ….WHO READETH ALOUD!!!
SALAMAT SA ATING DIOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SA DIOS NG ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At sasagot ang bayan SIYA NAWA.
Amen!
As brother eli says:
“How sweet it is, to be loved by GOD”
And we are so fortunate to have you Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel.
I truly feel the enormous works and LOVE of GOD through
them!
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!!!!!AMEN!!!!
To GOD be the glory. AMEN
As far as teachings are concerned, I had enough of foolish preachers trying to degrade Bro. Eli at all costs. They are nothing but cocky preacher wannabes to get money from their members.
Bro. Eli is the true Messenger of God. Anyone who has tried to oppose him has been conquered by the Word of God. – Luke 21:13-15.
All glory and praise be to our Almighty God forever!
Most so-called preachers today says that just obey the commandments of the Lord & you will be saved.
They did not know that we must also obey or fulfill the prophecies also written in the Bible.
If you want information about this. You should ask the authorities.
Jeremiah 6:16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.
thank to GOD for sending bro eli soriano to all mankind!i’ll always pray to GOD that before destruction comes the word of GOD spreads all over the world!!!!!!!!!!!
Next blog, please!
Thanks be to GOD!
AMEN!
But bro. eli I have a question you quoted:
Matthew 23:9) …call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Call no man your father? but I heard st. paul uttered the following:
” Unto Timothy, MY OWN SON IN THE FAITH , Grace, mercy and peace, from God our Father, and Jesus christ our Lord (1 Tim. 1:2) (
If He called Timothy as HIS OWN SON , it logically follows that HE IS the FATHER in FAITH of TIMOTHY, Is he not? because he hath converted Timothy to Christ.
Can you give light on this issue?
Thanks be to God!
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
BRO. ELI,
I honestly believed that You are a Prophet prepared by GOD even from the womb o your mother. And thanks be to GOD that I am alive at this dispensation of Your active Leadership.
To GOD be the Glory forever and ever, Amen.
17 ADVENTIST777,
1. The deceiver asked, “If He called Timothy as HIS OWN SON , it logically follows that HE IS the FATHER in FAITH of TIMOTHY, Is he not? because he hath converted Timothy to Christ. ”
Let me ask you also:
When the apostle John addressed the early christians to whom he was writting to as HIS LITTLE CHILDREN, does it also logically follow that HE IS THE FATHER IN FAITH OF ALL OF THEM?
1 John 2:1 ¶My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
3 John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
MALISYOSO KA! MAHIYA KA NAMAN!
Jet,
1 John 2:1 ¶My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
You ask that verse?
it is only a fulfillment of this:
“So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs”
The lambs there is treated a children or immature in the fellowship.
master MOON RAVEN
#17 is not my post.
21 master bitter more gravy,
Unfortunately, my question was not answered. You see, MR ADVENTIST again, misrepresented someone else. In this case. the innocent, Noreen M. Ocampo.
In that post he said,
“If He called Timothy as HIS OWN SON , it logically follows that HE IS the FATHER in FAITH of TIMOTHY, Is he not? because he hath converted Timothy to Christ. ”
1. So my question was relative to his. Let me repeat it.
“When the apostle John addressed the early christians to whom he was writting to as HIS LITTLE CHILDREN, does it also logically follow that HE IS THE FATHER IN FAITH OF ALL OF THEM?”
But your reply barely answered it. I was not asking if it is a fulfillment or not, of what or which.
2. My next question will be:
Are adventists also accusing the apostle John to be an ANTICHRIST like Paul – for the same ground? Or are they just BIAS AGAINST PAUL, because their interpretation of Daniel 7 will self-destruct?
ANSWER, ADVENTISTS! ANSWER!
a very impressive blog.
to God be the Glory
Romans 16:27
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!!
TRULY THAT THERE ARE BIBLE ACCOUNTS THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD WILL BE GIVEN TO THE NATION THAT ARE FRUITFUL…IN THIS CASE THE PHILIPPINES…
THE PROPHESY IS TRUE….NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT!!!!
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!! ^^
The practice of tithing can’t be applied literally in physical terms as it was in the old testament because Lord Jesus Christ emphasized more on the spirit of the law rather than on the letters. However since 2nd Tim 3:16 teaches that every scripture is useful for teaching and making sound doctrine, we can combine the old teaching on percentage giving with the principle of giving propotionately or as a percentage of giver’s income as taught in 1Cor 16:1-2. Since Lord Jesus did not prohibit us from giving 10% or more (Mat 23), we can use tithe or 10% as the standard of generosity. The claim or Bro. Eli that 2Cor 9:7 superseded Malachi 3:10 has no basis. It being qouted out of context. Reading from the beginning of 2Cor9, one will find that verse 7 is referring not the regular collection but to a promised contributions to other local churches. Therefore, it could not be considered as a replacement of the standard (10%) of generosity being taught in the old testament.While, it is true that the old priesthood had been abolished but a better priesthood is in place in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, whose spiritual work needs support as indicated in John 4:34. The spiritual meaning of the food or meat in Malachi 3:10 is the work of the God the Father which is also the work of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Yours in Christ Jesus,
Bien G. Gaurino
If we want standard for giving/generosity, the Bible always have one for us:
2Co_9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
Bro.Eli,we miss you and we love you!!!we pray to God that you in a good health…alway’s smile whatever problems you had…we really miss you…i wish to God,someday you are go back to the philippines to see us here…We thank’s God,because their sent you here to the people who want’s to chance a new life with God…
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!
1st of oll i just wanna thank God bec he gave us the true
preacher that can depend our belief….
TO GOD BE THE GLORY…
WE LOVE U BRO ELI………….
adventest give me a break ………… will u
TO Bien G. Gaurino:
WHAT? The claim or Bro. Eli that 2Cor 9:7 superseded Malachi 3:10 has no basis.
Did Bro. Eli say as you quoted ” 2 COR 9:7 superseded MALACHI 3:10″?
Num 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.
bien do you practice what NUMBERS 18:24 say?
IF YES, whose levite will your tithes be given (if you are one of the children of Israel)?
PRAISE AND HONOR TO YOU LORD GOD. Peace be with you fellow bloggers. I pray that you will not be distracted by a few who crash into this blog in order to create doubts and divisions. Let us be steadfast and forgive this detractors out to descredit Bro Eli and GOD HIMSELF. Things like this are part of the prophecy, that is why we must take all these temptations with a ‘grain of salt’. Whatever they do or say will not take away the TRUTH that Bro Eli is GOD sent and the CHURCH OF GOD International is part of the TRUE CHURCH, and the Philippines is the nation mentioned in the prophecy as the island in the seas in the east. The verses mentioned are reasonably and logically presented for everybody to understand. The unfolding events in the Philippines, and in many parts of the world are evidence to the TRUTH of the prophecies. We all know of the persecutions and oppressions directed at Bro Eli and the CHURCH OF GOD International. Bro Eli has even restrained some of our new members, including me from getting angry and taking revenge against some law enforcement officials who ordered the illegal raid, few years ago at our Convention Center in Apalit, Pampanga, Phillipines, with the admonition that vengeance belongs only to GOD. However, as prophesied in JEREMIAH 30:20 – …AND I WILL PUNISH ALL THAT OPPRESS THEM., the very athletic and healthy law enforcement official died of a stroke several weeks after. We were not glad about it in a way that Bro Eli has always taught us. But the event is just one of the many proofs of the prophecies pertaining to the CHURCH OF GOD and Bro Eli. If we are watchful, we will see and realize that wars, earthquakes, calamities, and dangers lurks all over the world in this end times exactly according to the bible, as what Bro Eli tells us. I am proud and filled with gratitude to GOD, to the CHURCH OF GOD, and to Bro Eli and Bro Daniel [even if Bro Eli would not accept it and instead direct us to give credit, thank, and glorify GOD] for leading and accepting me and my chilldren into the folds of the CHURCH OF GOD. I am proud to be from a poor nation, the Philippines.
Thank God for giving us Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel.
They are modern day prophets of the real God, God of Israel, God of Jacob, creator of all things in the universe!
Dont let go! Continue your crusade because many are being purified by your labor!
We are all behind you! May God bless us all!
advantist u r a blind fallower,for u and ur blind im pastor will fall into the ditch.
To GOD be the GLORY!
I just want to ask if the man “wise man from the poor nation” propecied in the bible will still be alive when the time comes that our Lord Jesus Christ comes back from Heaven?
Thank you and God bless.
Chris Chan
(Isaiah 24:15) Therefore in the east give glory to the LORD; exalt the name of the LORD, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea.
> I agree that quiboloy is another false teacher.but I cannot see any specific country here in verse given above…I wonder where Bro. Ellie got that idea and revelation.:-) the philippines is not the only country in the east with islands…and I find a different reading in the KJV version it’s written there “fires” not “east”…can you enlighten us with this Bro. Ellie?
Hi Jerian, please read–> From the East to the West, link below:
http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/from-the-east-to-the-west/
This will clear your doubt about your query above.
Hi again Jerian,
(KJV) Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
(KJV+) WhereforeH5921 H3651 glorifyH3513 ye the LORDH3068 in the fires,H217 even the nameH8034 of the LORDH3068 GodH430 of IsraelH3478 in the islesH339 of the sea.H3220
H217 –
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From H215: flame, (hence in the plural) the East (as being the region of light): – fire, light. See also H224.
Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Disctionaries
My comment: Such a great article, it hit two birds in one stone.
(1)Biblical prophecy that is happening right now in MCGI and Bro. Eli, and
(2) Exposing the wrong belief of other religious denomination
If you are member of those religious groups mentioned above, please do not be angry first, but investigate? Bro. Eli already gave you hint, your soul is at stake, please remember that.
I aleady red it brod…
again his articles doesn’t have the answers…where did he get the idea that it is the philippines…???
Hello Jerian01,
Thank you fro reading the article I mentioned above “From East to the West” to clarify your doubt about prophecy regarding Philippines.
May I ask you this question: You’d said that it is not only the Philippines (in the east) made of islands, what countries do you have in your mind?
Next question is: Are the people of this countries exalting the name of Lord of Israel?
Please let us know your thought. If you have more time, please read again the article.
Thanks be to God.
let’s do english 101…how many islands does it takes to say “islands”?:-) the point of the question is “east” and “islands” doesn’t always mean Philippines….I will give you the right exegesis to (Isaiah 24:15) Therefore in the east give glory to the LORD; exalt the name of the LORD, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea.
I will answer the Whit and you in this reply…
KJV
Isa 24:15 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea.
fire is translated “east” obviously this is not a direction of a country…LOL! “east” is considered to be a region of light…”east” is a synonym of “fire” or “light” this is not a direction..hello!”fire” is from the hebrew word “ur” means fire…the plural is “urim” the english translation is “lights” now…the word “isles” or “islands” in the scripture means “nations” or “countries”…in literal sense….the passage means…”glorify the Lord in the light, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in all the nations of the earth”…that’s what the passage means I advise you people to study your bible….anyone can claim anything in the scripture…study harder guys!!!ang totoo naaawa ako sa mga napapaniwala ng taong ito…:-(
In response to jerian (sept 6):
Hello again and thank you for commenting in this blog. I am hoping you will respond on my August 22, 2012 with intelligence. These are my questions again for you:
1. You’d said that it is not only the Philippines (in the east) made of islands, what countries do you have in your mind?
2. Next question is: Are the people of this countries exalting the name of Lord of Israel?
you said: let’s do english 101…how many islands does it takes to say “islands”?:-) the point of the question is “east” and “islands” doesn’t always mean Philippines…
Who said that it is “ALWAYS” mean Phils. if you read ‘east’ and islands here? NONE right? Can’t you really see that the verse is a prophecy and that it happening in the end times? How come ‘all nations’ of the earth glorify the Lord’s name if other nations have different gods? Glory in the light? What do you mean by that? I think you are the one who need to study your Bible by listening to the sent messenger of God. You are interpreting the scriptures by your own understanding.
Unsolicited advice for you, leave your pride and listen carefully to Bro. Eli, ask for guidance to God so that He will give you understanding.
jerian01,
Pls. read this blog again, you might have slept in between sentences.
The idea that it was the Philippines are from the prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah. Bro. Eli does not speak of himself if you only know the doctrines and do His will.
jerian,
I would rather believe Bro. Eli than believe you.
You defined fire in Hebrew without acknowledging the plural form “fires” as “the East” and “isles” as “islands”. If you will analyze each nations in the east, you will find no other nations or isles of the sea in the east which glorifies the Lord God of Israel but the Philippines.
You defined fire in Hebrew without acknowledging the plural form “fires” as “the East” and “isles” as “islands”. If you will analyze each nations in the east, you will find no other nations or isles of the sea in the east which glorifies the Lord God of Israel but the Philippines.
my reply:
again fire is translated “east” obviously this is not a direction of a country…LOL! “east” is considered to be a region of light…”east” is a synonym of “fire” or “light” this is not a direction..hello!”fire” is from the hebrew word “ur” means fire…the plural is “urim” the english translation is “lights” now…the word “isles” or “islands” in the scripture means “nations” or “countries”…in literal sense….the passage means…”glorify the Lord in the light, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in all the nations of the earth”…
again..what is the connection of the context to the philippines?for the text to mean it as our country?have you guys taken your hermeneutics classes?:-)do you not know how to take right context of a certain chapter or passages….i said the literal meaning of the passage is this…”glorify the Lord in the light, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in all the nations of the earth”…this is very easy to settle to prove that my understanding is correct.because few verses more it says…Isa 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O INHABITANT OF THE EARTH…verse 14 actually referring to all the nations of the Earth…islands of the seas…
“lights” or “east” has many positive shades of meaning in connection of its hebrew word…but 1 thing is certain it doesn’t mean “direction” of a country…
“glorifying God in the light” is the same as the song says..”walk in the light” or in truth…
God bless everyone I’m encouraging all of you to study…leave your comfort zone and be open minded learn how to stick in the context and do not make your own doctrines out of certain passages…
Jerian,
Hi again. You know what, in your comment above (Set. 16), it reminds me of Bro. Eli’s detractors who hated EAST as ‘direction’ of praying. Those fools, they said we can pray in any direction, but never east. Funny isn’t it? Any direction but not east.
Now, there you are, contradicting the prophecy written in Isaiah, which is also written in Malachi.
Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
Really God’s word is for simple mind. Anyway, Jerian, let say (for argument sake) that the literal meaning of ‘fire’ is ‘light’ and not direction, as what you wrote ‘region of light’ – (glorify the Lord in the light), and you said also ‘as the song says ‘walk in the light’… Do you mean, in darkness we cannot glorify God, only in the light? Or if I follow your argument as ‘walk in the light’, the ‘light’ in that song is God/Lord Jesus/righteousness/teachings, then it will be meant as ‘glorify the Lord in the GOD/Lord Jesus/righteousness/teachings???? Now really I am having a headache.
Another misinterpretation you made is this: isles/island of sea is literally means ‘all nations of the earth’,, is Muslim countries ‘NATIONS’? How about China, Malaysia, India whose God is not God of Israel, they are all nations right? How come all the nations in the earth glorify the name of the Lord if there are nations do not acknowledge God?
To end this comment, let me borrow your words: I’m encouraging (all of) you to study…leave your comfort zone and be open minded learn how to stick in the context and do not make your own doctrines out of certain passages…
Thank you Jerian. May the Lord give you LIGHT to understand all these things. Sure that ‘light’ is not a direction.
Hello Bro Eli and brothers and sisters in God,
I have just read this article today… And a good read it was.
Yes, the Bible is known for an ample amount of prophets and prophecies, and yes they were manifested indeed.
I just want to be enlightened more in this particular bible phrase:
(Isaiah 24:15)Therefore in the east give glory to the LORD; exalt the name of the LORD, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea. NIV
I believe this has been written in the OLD testament, and I am wondering how come that it is only in recent times, that this phrase became a very highly regarded point of reference for INC, Church of God, et al…? ? ?
Is it not only a mere justification to back up such claims of being the chosen or the prophesied one here in the Philippines? If such reference is the truth, and nothing but the whole truth, then what shall happen to the rest of the world outside of the Philippines? who will be claimed just? who is to be saved? whom shall the world listen to?
The bible have been studied for centuries and only to this generation that Philippines has finally came into context…
I am a Filipino but is not selfish to say that only “us” will be saved? and the rest of the world shall falter? Is that this prophecy all about?
For sure, this may have been a famous topic of debate from Church of God vs INC, R.C. Et al, but with all your knowledge as a person and as a bible preacher, can you please shed more light to the readers, and to the world about my humble question(s)?
Since my question above about the prophecy in the Philippines will eventually touch the mystery of salvation in the ends of time, I have included few more questions below…
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Who will be saved in the ends of time?
1. Islam
2. Catholic
3. INC
4. Hinduism
5. Buddhism
6. Church of God
7. Kingdom of God
8. Seventh Day Adventist
9. Jehovah’s Witnesses
10. Et Al (all other religions)
11. Non Religious Men/Women
Who Among Them?
Does Religion really matter?
Who does speak of the truth that all of the nations shall listen to?
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Who shall be saved?
A Muslim who lived humble and holy.
A Christian who lived humble and holy.
A Buddhist who lived humble and holy.
Any other religious and non-religious men/women who lived humble and holy.
Should these men/women who have lived humble and holy, who have also venerated and worshiped God in the form of images, relics, and holy statues, be not saved?
Should these men/women who have lived humble and holy, who have never even venerated nor worshiped any God at all, be not saved?
Almost all of the population in the world from ancient times to this date have received religions and faith from birth. Many of whom died with their faith unchanged.
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Do you believe in Extra Terrestrial Beings?
Are they Angels?
Demons?
Gods?
Aliens?
other Human Ancestors?
Ancient Aliens Theories are becoming mainstream today and even many movies over the past decades have touched this topic.
What if there are aliens? and the God(s) that people from stone age faithfully believed up to this date are results of misinterpretations due to lack of technology and knowledge of those times? Marami na din kasing scientific proofs na lumalabas ngayon regarding this…
The Bible is one of those proofs about advanced extra terrestrial visitations. Example po ung how angels come down from heaven, most especially po ung sa Moses times. Flight from Egypt.
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Marami na po akong naitanong, can you please enlighten the world regarding this matter?
Thanks,
I will check on this page for your response and will be glad to read your answers po…
Vicente Felipe
Makati Philippines